Author Topic: Time to light up North Korea... (Read 2281 times)

funkedup · « **Reply #30 on:** April 24, 2003, 10:59:43 AM »

No Dowding it didn't work. DPRK broke their side of the deal before the oil was cut off.

Maverick · « **Reply #31 on:** April 24, 2003, 11:03:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
NK went maverick decades ago.

HEY HEY HEY!!!! Watch it Dowding!!!!!

Maverick threatens the US in no way. It's just rediculous!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #32 on:** April 24, 2003, 11:06:02 AM »

http://www.msnbc.com/news/859191.asp

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~At one camp, Camp 22 in Haengyong, some 50,000 prisoners toil each day in conditions that U.S. officials and former inmates say results in the death of 20 percent to 25 percent of the prison population every year.

~Products made by prison laborers may wind up on U.S. store shelves, having been “washed” first through Chinese companies that serve as intermediaries.

~Entire families, including grandchildren, are incarcerated for even the most bland political statements.

~Forced abortions are carried out on pregnant women so that another generation of political dissidents will be “eradicated.”

~Inmates are used as human guinea pigs for testing biological and chemical agents, according to both former inmates and U.S. officials.

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AKIron · « **Reply #33 on:** April 24, 2003, 11:11:49 AM »

I really doubt that the US will strike first, militarily I mean. It'll be up to the North Koreans to start a war, if that's what they want.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #34 on:** April 24, 2003, 11:16:12 AM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
I just don't understand their thinking, though.

If you are not born and raised Asian, its hopeless to try and understand their thinking (Chinese especially, Japanese somwhat, and Korean to a lesser extent).

Any "Gijan" (sp?) that tells you he understands the Asain thought process is either lying or stupid.

That assertation may sound like somthing out of a Klan meeting, but it actually is true.

MrLars · « **Reply #35 on:** April 24, 2003, 11:22:25 AM »

I would hope that the Japanese would be heavely involved in any military action against NK.

It's their backyard and I, for one, would like to see what kind of bellybutton kickin' they could do....if it became necessary.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #36 on:** April 24, 2003, 11:30:23 AM »

You see all trouble the USA started when we mercilessly forced into WW2, which they lost and were forced to give up Korea.. Its all americas fault!

crowMAW · « **Reply #37 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:10:27 PM »

NK should have been the first on agenda. Saddam was a toothless heal hound compared to Kim. Saddam was not an immediate threat...NK has been a threat since their first missile launch that was capable of striking US bases and interests in the Pacific. NK has an active and successful nuke program...it would have been nearly impossible for Iraq to have re-constituted it's nuke weapons program to the level that NK currently has.

I still can't believe we wasted all of our international goodwill and stretched our military resources to remove a non-entity like Saddam when a truly dangerous lunatic was sitting in NK.

Glad the rest of you woke up finally.

Steve · « **Reply #38 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:29:10 PM »

"They are the 5th largest military. They are fanatical communists, indoctrinated since childhood by one of the most extreme Stalinist systems the world has known. They are well equipped. They have been dug into rugged terrain for 50 years. They have large forces within easy striking distance of Seoul. If there is war in Korea, we are talking 1M dead minimum."

Bahahahaha!!!!!

"They are dug into rugged terrain." Cool, this will just make it easier to go around them. NK cannot sustain any kind of military action, they are broke. Fanatical communists. Bahahahahaha!!!
Starving people aren't fanatical about anything, they just want to eat. I do believe we would suffer more causalities than in Iraq. But NK is a paper tiger.

In 1991, there was much talk about how Iraq had the 3rd largest army... blah blah blah.

NK is nothing but bluster, their ONLY hope for killing people is that they successfully detonate nuclear weps. In a conflict, their "army" would alternate between dying in their rugged terrain to smart bambs and to starving to death. No need to fight their war. Have you learned nothing in the last few weeks?

OIO · « **Reply #39 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:29:49 PM »

I'd say the weak link was taken out first before it drank its milk and became a real threat crowmaw.

Next up!

funkedup · « **Reply #40 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:32:29 PM »

Steve you need to educate yourself a little more about the DPRK military. The reason civilians are starving is because the government diverts a huge amount of their GNP towards the military. Their military is well fed, well equipped, fanatical, and more importantly they are numerous. And they do have significant fixed defenses, preplanned artillery fires, etc.

OIO · « **Reply #41 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:46:50 PM »

funked, the only danger in NK is their nukes.

A very numerous military in a small country only means them bombs get more per blast

But seriously though, without their nuke threat, NK army would still be pounded to oblivion from the air a-la gulf war style.

And god help them if they launch at Japan. The JDF only needs the excuse to go into Korea and finally beat the stuffing out of it (well, the north at least).

Curval · « **Reply #42 on:** April 24, 2003, 03:15:02 PM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
The reason civilians are starving is because the government diverts a huge amount of their GNP towards the military. Their military is well fed, well equipped, fanatical, and more importantly they are numerous. And they do have significant fixed defenses, preplanned artillery fires, etc.

This sounds familiar......the same was said about a Mid-East country that is now occupied by the US.

It's gonna be a while before they clean up all the burned out tanks and artillery there.

funkedup · « **Reply #43 on:** April 24, 2003, 03:20:16 PM »

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Originally posted by OIO
funked, the only danger in NK is their nukes.

If there was a war, DPRK would lose. But not before they flattened Seoul with artillery.

And yes our air power would dominate, but not without significant losses. They have a lot of air defense equipment.

Also it's unlikely we would have the amount of air prep time we had against Iraq. If DPRK starts the war, then we would have zero air prep, and they would be able to really put a hurting on ROK targets and cities near the border. If we start the war, then DPRK would still be able to shell the crap out of ROK before we whittled down their air defense and artillery capabilities.

And they have enough men that a ground invasion of DPRK would be very costly in terms of USA/ROK/civilian lives. Much different terrain and greater density of troops than Iraq.

funkedup · « **Reply #44 on:** April 24, 2003, 03:21:17 PM »

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This sounds familiar......the same was said about a Mid-East country that is now occupied by the US.

It's gonna be a while before they clean up all the burned out tanks and artillery there.

Have you ever seen any of their parades or demonstrations? Hitler had nothing on Kim. Hundreds of thousands of people screaming, marching, dancing in unison. This is nothing like Iraq.