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Offline muckmaw

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« on: April 24, 2003, 09:22:37 AM »
Just coming across the wire now...MSNBC is reporting talks between N. Korea, S. Korea, US, and China have broken down.

N. Korea said they now have nuclear fuel...(Bear with me, it was a sound bite I jsut caught) and will sell it to others (No mention as to who) unless the US agrees to concessions.

Now is this Nuclear Blackmail, or is it me being paranoid?

The N. Koreans are basically holding a gun to our head, and teling us to give up our wallet.

This is getting ugly fast.

If we strike their facilites ala the Israeli raid in Iraq (1980?), will they go after S. Korea, Japan, and others?

We may have to get our hands dirty on the other side of the world again.....

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2003, 09:26:19 AM »
The time to light up NK has long since passed.. Lets get on with it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2003, 09:28:52 AM »
Time to call a session of the UN Security Council.

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2003, 09:30:49 AM »
Actually I think its more like the NKs are holding a gun to their own head.

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2003, 09:31:57 AM »
Let me be the first to spew it....

America was thretened by North Korea in no way, it was just plain ridiculous!

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2003, 09:32:33 AM »
Jimbear, you by FAR have the best Avatar!

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2003, 09:33:10 AM »
Hey, I think Blix & Co. are available! I'm sure the French & Germans can get NK to let them in...........
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2003, 09:36:37 AM »
So the 'let's go down the diplomatic route' wasn't such a great choice afterall?
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2003, 09:40:29 AM »
We need Hans Blix. Only Hans Blix and Coffee-cup Annon can save us now.

It's times like these that I'm most comforted by the fact that we have the UN to protect us from these threats. If the UN didn't exist, we would be left on our own to deal with these threats!  

Funny how you don't hear an outcry against NK from the "world leaders" of France and Germany or the UN. I guess when they have a real problem to solve  they don't want to be heard.

The UN, France and Germany will probably only be heard from when it's once again time for them to become road-blocks to any possible US solution to the world's problem of NK.

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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2003, 09:41:10 AM »
Does not seem to me like they want diplomacy.

I'm not speaking from a 100% imformed position here, as I said, it was a sound bite.

It seems to me like NK wants a check to go away, until they run out of cash again.

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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2003, 09:59:01 AM »
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Does not seem to me like they want diplomacy.

I'm not speaking from a 100% imformed position here, as I said, it was a sound bite.

It seems to me like NK wants a check to go away, until they run out of cash again.


Yeah they want  money, so they drag the US into this. Why is it a US problem that NK needs money?  NK is trying to single out the US as the source of their problems........it comes naturally these days.

Funny how NK doesn't demand anything from China, their masters! Doesn't China support NK?

NK's position is a joke and if they need to be delt with militarily, it will be the US followed by our great British friends making the sacrifice I'm sure.

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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2003, 10:02:18 AM »
Well, we've set a precedant with Iraq.

We perceived a threat of the proliferation of WMD with a Iraq as the source and intervened. The actual existance of these WMD has yet to be determined beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Now NK is saying..."We have Nukes....We will sell them."

We are beyond perception now. We're looking at a clear threat to our national security.

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2003, 10:02:30 AM »
Im dying to see how people will try and blame Bush for this one.

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2003, 10:06:21 AM »
China has distanced itself from NK in recent years. Even they realise the NK leadership is bonkers.

Like Muckmaw says - a precedent has been set. And NK seemingly want to exploit that.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2003, 10:18:32 AM »
In my point of view, NK is a much more "moral" target than Iraq was.

I dont mean politically or strategically or national-security wise.

Hussein did horrible things to his people.. but he PALES in comparison to what that nutcase Kim has done to his.

And kim has nukes. And the means to lob a few to Japan and SK That is very,very frightening..and why the US has not already taken him out.

Kim saw Iraq go down, and saw that his only chance to survive was to build more nukes. Thats what he's doing now... and he's playing the saber-rattling game to get the US to sign a non-aggression pact with him.. which will never happen, and he knows it, but hes using this to gain time to build his nukes.

For when the coalition comes 'nockin , his only response would be to lob a nuke at Yokosuka (crappy missile tech would probably go off-target and hit Kyoto or something), and one at S.K. And then the Chinese will invade them.