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Offline crabofix

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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2003, 06:40:40 PM »
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What if he was complicit in killing tens of thousands?



Toad, who is gonna be charged for thoose thousands that got killed by the coalition, during this war?

Funny how theres only one way of seeing "crimes": The conquers way.

Nope, I dont like it, but theres nothing to do about it.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2003, 07:00:08 PM »
Well Crabo......

Would there have been a war if Hussein had complied with the UN SC resolutions anytime in the past 12 years?

NO.

So, there's your answer.

It all could have been avoided.

Not that you would accept that.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2003, 07:18:31 PM »
No, with the book in hand, it could nt been avoided.
The wmds, has not been found: yet.
Saddam, a filthy rotten dictator, has fallen: yes

The Cause of the Attack is slowly changing to: "liberation of Iraq".
No matter what the cause was, international law was broken.
UN, being made powerless and will meet the same fate as NU.

But, there was no future in UN anyway, it was only kept alive in the vacuum between the struggle of 2 superpowers.

As there is only one superpower left, theres no use for UN.
But, things shift fast, new Politics nd Presidents are elected every year.

Bush administration will have a lifespan of maximum, 8 years.
Then what?
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2003, 07:52:01 PM »
Toad can you refresh my memory as to what resolutions Iraq had violated?.. Being as no WMD have been found..

I suppose you'll say shooting at American planes in the no-fly zone, but was that a UN resolution or a US mandate for cease fire?

Just curious not trying to pick a fight with ya.

Scuds... Scuds would be in violation. Have any of those been found?
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2003, 07:54:28 PM »
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Y'all missed the important part, since he's a christian, that means he must be a good person.  

???

What does being a christian have to do with anything?


I think it was just bait being dangled for those who have a real hard-on when it comes to the thought of taking a punch at Christianity. ;)
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2003, 08:09:34 PM »
10Bears, they didn't comply with the terms of the '91 ceasefire with respect to disarmament.

17 resolutions later, they had still had not convinced the UN SC... note, the SC... that they had complied, thus UN SC 1441 which was voted for unanimously.

So, had they complied enough to avoid those 17 UN SC resolutions, there would have been no 1441, right? No 1441, no war.

Argue with the UN SC about 1441, not me.  ;)
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2003, 08:11:38 PM »
Crabofix:

Saddam could have avoided this. Sorry you don't like to hear that.

After Bush? There will be another US President.

The UN... well, let's see how that elite, august organization handles the NK situation what with the UN IAEA handing them the problme of NK's pullout from the non-proliferation treaty and NK threatening to sell plutonium to terrorists.
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2003, 08:15:16 PM »
No scuds that I've heard of yet.

But entire squadrons of MiGs buried in the sand. Imagine that, eh? Burying whole aircraft.

Could it be possible they buried a Scud detachment? Do you think they have enough desert to hide them in?
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2003, 08:21:22 PM »
The UN has power? Since when?
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2003, 08:44:27 PM »
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The UN has power? Since when?


Not has, had powers. Since it was founded.

SC is what was controlling it. England, France, China, US and RUSSIA Could put veto against a reselution.

No reselution from the SC, No legitim action could be taken.

There was a international law, that garanted soverign states safety. This law does not longer exist and the power of UN is gone.
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2003, 08:55:22 PM »
One little problem with that argument Crabofix and, again, no one on this board has the answer.

It will be a court/lawyer type thing.

The US and the UK say that 1441 GAVE them all the authorization that was needed. Obviously France, Germany, Russia disagreed.

Not nearly as black and white as anyone of us would like.
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2003, 09:01:45 PM »
Never the less, the balance is disturbed and UN made toothless.

It might not matter for time being, but things main not always remain the way they are, today.

Remember, there is no defence against Nuclear missiles, only retaliation.
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2003, 09:10:28 PM »
Lucky me, who lives far from all this:D
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2003, 09:12:38 PM »
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Remember, there is no defence against Nuclear missiles, only retaliation.


So you say. I'm not so sure and neither will our enemies be, until their missiles don't reach their intended targets.
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2003, 09:15:18 PM »
let us send 10bears and crabofix to iraq, i am sure they can turn all iraqis into peace loving people.
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