Two interesting anecdote's from the war

[Jack55]

We spend a lot of money to train them to be very dangerous and aggresive.

[Furball]

Originally posted by X2Lee
and you dont know that the guy yelled HUAH! before he downed the chinook, like I said before its a stupid statement.

Did i say he did?

all i said was :

The point is just they seem a little 'Gung Ho' or Trigger Happy,

Which is the common perception of US forces throughout the world, as this post proves.  I didnt mean to start an arguement with anyone, nor upset anyone.

How is that a stupid statement?

and obviously you didnt read the thread properly if you think he downed the chinhook

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Furball
Did i say he did?

all i said was :

 

Which is the common perception of US forces throughout the world, as this post proves.  I didnt mean to start an arguement with anyone, nor upset anyone.

How is that a stupid statement?

and obviously you didnt read the thread properly if you think he downed the chinhook

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Ok pardon. I still thought the bad bellybutton brit chopper pile its was funny  

Ya gotta picture dowding jumping on a burly marine to get it I guess...

[Furball]

Originally posted by X2Lee

Ya gotta picture dowding jumping on a burly marine to get it I guess...

Dowding would be jumping on him for all the wrong reasons tho

[bozon]

actually, my favorite incident was the US plane that destroyed a Patriot radar with HARM missile.

either he was revenging his tornado buddies or he just had no clue where the front is. Firing at a SAM on the opposite direction of the front and the patriot is not located even close to the front line... I guess they had a good laugh at his expense in his squadron

the best thing is no one was injured.

Bozon

[Dago]

I am a little sick of GScholz sitting on his ass, the brave little armchair warrior deciding he is some ultimate authority qualified to judge soldiers actions in a war zone.

Has he ever faced an enemy in combat?  Has he ever been shot at with automatic weapons, ever been shelled by artillery or motars?  Has the self-appointed GScholz ever spent a night in a hole knowing there is an enemy out there somewhere who wants to kill him, ever wondered if he would actually see the dawn?  How many times has GScholz had to rapidly put on a chemical suit and gas mask when the sound of incoming rounds was sounded?

Tell me Mr GScholz, Judge of all he has not done, how many of your close friends have you held while they died in your arms as a result of enemy gunfire?  What are your memories of the smell and sights and sounds of death in combat?  What was it like to leave behind your home and family to board an aircraft or ship to a land you knew nothing about, other than there were persons there who wanted to kill you?

Tell me of the fear, the sadness, the pure terror one must feel when under attack.  Tell me of the cries of the wounded and dieing, tell me of the blood on your clothes as a result of tending to your best friends wounds.

If and when you can tell me about these things from a first hand point of view, I will more easily accept that you should be allowed an opinion about the actions of soldiers in a war.  Then maybe I will not feel you are less than a despicable piece of cowcrap for berating or judging those whos shoes you cannot begin to fill.

Until then, I strongly suggest you keep your mouth closed, and your fingers off the keyboard and stick to your little simulator games.

Dago

[bozon]

lol Dago.
good monolog, slightly over dramatic, but just good enough to go in some holywood movie.

you dont need to cary injured friends and get shot to recognize a stupid act.
yes, people here are armchair warriors, but a few do have some common sense. And soldiers have common sense as well (at least most of them)

Bozon

edit:
btw, war is a lot less of a holywood movie and much more of "catch 22".

[Angus]

Now cool off a tad my dear Americans. GScholz may be burning your pride a bit, but I think he is correct, and there is no use getting personal and offensive about this.
The US army has been known for trigger-happiness since WW2, and that "cowboy" reputation will take a long time to shake off.
My great uncle flew in WW2, he got fired at and bombed by the US, and also observed that they would even keep their fire button unlocked during landing!! A common knowledge at the time was to be careful around the Americans, for they often fired before establishing a proper ID. Happens in war, anyway.
Aside from this point, I am sensing some arrogance towards the British, as if they had merely been in GWII as a sideshow. Now that is nothing but a naive attempt to an insult, - the British were there at the US side, mounting a considerable force on ground and air (and 2/3 of the armour), and getting into heavy engagements many times with very acceptable results.
Just face it, there were friendly fire incidents in which the US were mostly responsible, that's it, it happened and is to be learned from for improvement rather than defending it's credibility to the bloody end.
Finally, I belive GScholz is a veteran soldier, not just the armchair version

[Dago]

Slightly dramatic, yes, intentionally.

I am just sick and tired of armchair quarterbacking, judging others who are in tense situations they havent experienced themselves.

My apologies if you have fought in some terrible war GScholz.   Feel free to share with me about the engagements you participated in please share, so I can learn and be better informed, how many Norwegians were killed in those battles.  I have tremendous respect for soldiers who fight for their countries.

With all that went on in Iraq, the actual total of friendly fire incidents from all I have read and heard about is actually extremely low.  Extremely low.  I find it deplorable that someone could sit in the comfort of their home and sterotype the whole of an armed force engaged in battle by two or three incidents.  Considering the amount of territory covered and held, the amount of troops involved, I rather think this extremely low rate of friendly fire is a testament to their training and professionalism rather than an indictment of the soldiers.

I am, as you can tell, sick and tired of pathetic little turds who use this board as a way to insult and berate the US, it's people and it's armed forces for any reason, real or imagined that they can come up with.

I guess many do this out of envy, but it gets old.  Maybe someday when these peoples countries matter again in the world arena, they can stop attempting to berate others.

dago

[Suave]

I knew dudes who had the misfortune of being deployed to Bosnia. It was a big deal because they made US soldiers wear blue helmets and some soldiers were punished because they refused . My friends didn't see any combat but they said when shells would land in camp or a sniper would shoot the first things they did was throw that damn blue helmet as far as they could .