Tell me again why....

[WhiteHawk]

Why cant bombers fire from all gun positions on the airfield?
They certainly can be shot.

 Is it that they can land on a nme airfield and vulch?
  Lemme catch nme bombers sitting on my airbase!

 Is it that they will spawn and use the buffs as base defense?
   Lemme catch a buff sitting on a runway!

 Is it unrealistic?
  If there were bombers taking off from an airfiled and being
assaulted by nme planes would the gunners shoot?

[SlapShot]

"Is it that they will spawn and use the buffs as base defense?"

You win cupie doll !!!

[WhiteHawk]

Ok..does this really scare anybody?

[Kweassa]

It would, if 10 people spawn at various positions with 30 B-17s pointing 60~180  .50 cal machine guns firing towards the sky. Not to mention the mega-lag buff formations cause.

[WhiteHawk]

Good thinkin..1 bomb would wipe out the whole bunch.

Ok..how about if a bomber is moving, then the gns are active?

[Pei]

No Ack-stars and no car-bombing!
If you need the defence of your guns to take off then you should be taking off from a different (safer) field.
If you don't have a safer field to take off from then tough, you have just about lost the war: Getting away to Argentina with as many sheep as possible before the end should now be your goal.

[GRUNHERZ]

I miss carbombing, I miss it even more now that we have the Stuka and that 4000lb bomb..

[Urchin]

Hehe, I used to love carbombers.  Just shoot em a couple times from 1,000 yards out, and wait for them to blow themselves up.  It was so much easier than regular vulching.

[WhiteHawk]

Originally posted by Pei
No Ack-stars and no car-bombing!
If you need the defence of your guns to take off then you should be taking off from a different (safer) field.
If you don't have a safer field to take off from then tough, you have just about lost the war: Getting away to Argentina with as many sheep as possible before the end should now be your goal.

good point, but what about when I try to land my crippled bomber and some suicidal maniac screams in in his la7 to blast
my defenseless arse when im coasting to a stop on the runway,
trying to land my hard earned 4 kills and some strat targets
destroyed.  Gimme  my damm guns, I may get him 1 out of 10 times but least I dont have to sit there and watch helplessly.
  As far as taking off, disable the bombers, not the guns.  In fact,
if the bombers as a base defense thing is effective at all, the
attackers can simply kill the bomber hangars and everything
balnces out.

[ccvi]

Not wanting to hijack, but...

How exactly does car bombing work? (or how did it work when there was no distance travelled for bombs required0? Isn't it pretty useless to drop bombs where you spawn a bomber - usually on your own field that is?

[Yeager]

Spawn onto runway in a plane loaded with bombs and drop the bombs.  The bombs used to explode when dropped from zero altitude.  Not only did this kill the dipsh*t dropping his bombs but it killed any enemy plane within....oh, lets say within 700 feet.

When it started happening was when AH really nose dived as far as clientel was concerned.  In other words, once AH became really popular

[Horn]

OR one might deack a base, kill the VH and park buff behind the runway spawn point killin all that ups...iirc, it was referred to as a "Bloodpig" the a-26 'vaders were the buff of choice for the task...

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[WhiteHawk]

All of these possibilities are legitimate concerns, except that
if an airfield is properly perepped for capture, there should be
no buff hangars up anyhow.  The insignificance of
buff hangars is blatantly clear here.  What I hear is
'lawd have mercy, if buffs were allowed active guns at takeoff,
how would we capture a base?!?!?!?!"  This is obsurd,
if you get sick of killing them on the ground, simply kill the buff hangars.  If you get killed by them while your trying to vulch,
dont vulch.  Give me an airfield with 30 buffs parked on the runway and give me 1 3800lb stuka knucklebuster.  I'll
win the 100 bucks for the camp.

[Pongo]

It is better this way. Dont focus on getting killed once and thinking the game should be changed in some way because of it.

[WhiteHawk]

yes..better for the vulchers, which is the only ones who fear
the gunned buffs on the ground;)