Troops fire into crowd for thowing rocks...

[muckmaw]

Well depending on which news source you believe.

Al-Jazeera says US troops, occupying a school, opened fire on men, women and children, when rocks were thrown at them. The protestors, according to this source say the people were protesting the US presence at the school, as they wanted classes to resume.

The US military says they were fired on by infiltrators of the group, uding AK-47s, at whom they returned fire.

Of course, Al_jazeera interviews the women and children in the hospital who were just minding their own business when the big bad US Army starting shooting for laughs.

Somewhere between the Military account, and the Al-Jazeera account, lies to truth.

Why does Al-Jazeera insist on fanning the flames?

Can anyone honestly believe the US would open fire on people throwing rocks?

There was Kent state, so I suppose it's possible, but as always, I'll be waiting for the facts. I certainly won't hold my breath.

[udet]

hell yeah. can u really tell the difference between a rock and a hand grenade, especially when a bunch of projectiles are heading towards you? And I'm sure they have some hand grenades left over from the army in Iraq. I don't blame US troops for firing into the crwod even if they weren't fired upon.

[Dowding]

Yeah Udet, firing at unarmed civilians is always a justifiable reaction.

Personally, I wish British troops had shot more people at the Bloody Sunday riots.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Dowding
Yeah Udet, firing at unarmed civilians is always a justifiable reaction.

Personally, I wish British troops had shot more people at the Bloody Sunday riots.

Shooting into an unarmed crowd is usually justified .....even if simply in reaction to someone in the crowd sticking their tongue at our boys. Our troops don't need any crap from crowds.

[capt. apathy]

Yeah Udet, firing at unarmed civilians is always a justifiable reaction.

they weren't unarmed. they had rocks.

[AKIron]

I'm tellin' ya, we're gonna hafta send Jackie Chan over there to kick some ass.

[midnight Target]

Yea Jackie Chan!! A great American!

[NUKE]

Originally posted by capt. apathy
they weren't unarmed. they had rocks.

If I were in a crowd protesting an armed force, the last thing in the world I would think of doing would be to start throwing rocks or physically attacking them in any way.

When will people learn? Kinda like "bulldozer" girl if you ask me.

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by NUKE
If I were in a crowd protesting an armed force, the last thing in the world I would think of doing would be to start throwing rocks or physically attacking them in any way.

When will people learn? Kinda like "bulldozer" girl if you ask me.

People do stupid things. A friend of mine is a NYC cop, and he was over last night, for a few beers. He told me he had an arrest earlier in the week, because a woman 5'2 115lbs, jumped a National Guardsman, and tried to take away he M-16!

Now, tell me, if you were that guard, would you have opened up on her?

He did not, and she was arrested as an EDP and will probably sue the city.

EIther way, the guard did not fire. Point is, different people react to situations differently.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
Nuke, why are the US in Iraq?

eh? Because we invaded it?

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
*sigh* ... What ... is ... the ... purpose ... of ... you ... being ... in ... Iraq?

I'm not in Iraq.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
Realy?! That surprises me! You seem to have such uncanny insight into how and what should be done that I assumed you were over there leading the troops! ... of course they would be goose-stepping if you were.

When did I claim to have insight into how and what should be done ?

[Syzygyone]

Originally posted by muckmaw
Well depending on which news source you believe.

Somewhere between the Military account, and the Al-Jazeera account, lies to truth.

Why does Al-Jazeera insist on fanning the flames?

 

If, as you suggest, the truth is somewhere in between, then you must be assuming that both sides are not telling the truth.  Why do you make the assumption that the military account is not accurate as stated?.  

While I am certainly not one to automatically take the government line as truth, I am curious why we always seem to assume that it's just not quite the truth, especially in this instance with the military vs Al-Jazeera.  Does anything Al Jazeera says have any, ANY, measure of validity to it?  Maybe if you are Wolf Blitzer, or Christianne Amanpour or Peter Arnett.

Just curious why you phrased it as you did?

[Saurdaukar]

Hey!  I saw this movie... Sammy Jackson and that other dude... um... um... Tommy Lee Jones!  Decent flick, but not worth watching twice... had people firing weapons in the crowd there too.

Look - if America isnt the bad guy in the middle east the entire region is destabilized.  Without America to blame for poverty, living conditions, and MacDonalds, the kings and dictators would be overthrown - it's been working for Castro thus far.  

And Dowding - I cant help to notice that its usually the Americans taking the prisoners - not the British - so lets not go pointing the humanitarian stick, mmmmkay?

[Hortlund]

I'll say the same thing as I usually end up saying in the Israel-threads.

Dont throw stuff on armed soldiers.

Stay inside. If you cannot stay inside and you meet armed soldiers outside, be polite.

Do not pick up rocks, chairs, small pieces of wood, dead animals or whatever to throw at the soldiers. It is not smart. It does not fill any purpose and the soldiers have helmets.

Do not join any demonstration.

If you absolutely MUST join some demonstration, make sure everybody knows about the "dont throw anything at the nervous guys with guns"-rule.

See the soldiers will be outnumbered and scared. They will have one method and one method only to defend themselves...their weapons.

If you are in a demonstration and you hear vile anti-western democratic country-chants. Try to sneak away. If you see people pick up rocks, chairs, small pieces of wood or dead animals, run away. Run far away.

If shooting starts, lay down. Do not try to run away from the bullets, they are faster than you.

If you fail these simple advice...YOU are to blame for whatever happens next.