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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2003, 05:17:36 PM »
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I hopt you are all aware that that bombing was against the Geneva convention. Just like bombing the Serbian and Iraqi TV.

The Geneva convention does not allow the attack of media assets (wether for propaganda or not.)

How can you retain morale autorithy when you break some of the rules that allows you to send people in jail (war criminals?)


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No flame here, but the Geneva Convention allows for the targetting of military targets. And of course any media used for directing or galvanizing enemy forces is a legitimate military target.
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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2003, 05:24:36 PM »
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I hopt you are all aware that that bombing was against the Geneva convention. Just like bombing the Serbian and Iraqi TV.

The Geneva convention does not allow the attack of media assets (wether for propaganda or not.)

How can you retain morale autorithy when you break some of the rules that allows you to send people in jail (war criminals?)


<--- Puts is asbestos suit on.



Now, as US piss on all other international conventions, Why would they respect the convention of Geneva?

Face it: They have the power to dictate the terms and do whatever they please to do.

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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2003, 05:26:27 PM »
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I hopt you are all aware that that bombing was against the Geneva convention. Just like bombing the Serbian and Iraqi TV.

The Geneva convention does not allow the attack of media assets (wether for propaganda or not.)

How can you retain morale autorithy when you break some of the rules that allows you to send people in jail (war criminals?)


<--- Puts is asbestos suit on.


The same links used for their propaganda also delivered communications for the military.

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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2003, 05:26:29 PM »
What was confusing about it toad was that dowding was criticizing those who wanted to pull the troops out.  Adressing those individuals.  If you want to lump yourself in with them then fine.  Just make sure the reply is aimed at the correct target.

Seems everyone thinks they are speaking for everyone else these days.

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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2003, 05:34:00 PM »
Well, I read it more as commentary on the Administration rather than previous posters. That's the way I read it.

He cleared it up in a following post, so no big deal. Seems I'm not the only one that took it that way though, so I have company in my incredibly stupid misinterpretation.

So, sorry Dowding.. my mistake.

There, Mini... all better now?

Jeebus, the IRS been all over you the last month or what? ;)
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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2003, 05:41:28 PM »
Nah.. just the **** on this bbs is getting pretty deep.

Given some of the statements made before dowding's post... it should not have been that difficult to discern what he was trying to say.  It was indeed an enditement.  I think you just missed who it was aimed at... intentionally or not.

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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2003, 05:44:12 PM »
I don't think anyone here was advocating pulling out of Iraq before a stable government is in place. Dowding just chose to interpret it that way.
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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2003, 05:52:08 PM »
Intentionally or not?

Implication or just comment?

I mean, if we're going to be all touchy here.........


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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2003, 05:52:57 PM »
Hmmm.. well Iron, now I guess it's you, me and Funked make three...

Guess we're all three duma  es.
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« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2003, 05:53:28 PM »
Um, Iron... you are the only one reading interpreting what was posted.

"I'm all for US forces withdrawing from everywhere."

"I heard that!!

Pull out of every where and take our money with us.
No more money to these piss ant countries.
Lets spend some of OUR American dollars in AMERICA fer gawds sake!
They (all these little dip**** countries) can all curl up and die for all I care.
lets take care of our own for a change."


There's not really much interpretation needed.  You're the only one that added the caveat at the end.  My guess is that you think you were speaking for the others that didn't?

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« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2003, 05:58:36 PM »
Sigh...

You two feel free to "play" stupid.  I have to think you are just playing dumb here, because neither of you seem to be that way normally.

Include FunkedUp too.  I'm sure he really didn't mean "pull out troops out from everywhere"... he really meant "get our troops home as soon as the area they are in is stable enough to do it."

Yep.  Dowding sure has a tough time interpretting posts.  Oh.. and the fireman analogy... that wasn't really implying that we should just leave either.

Nah... its all dowding and his misinterpretation of the things people are actually writing.

You guys have it down much better.

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« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2003, 06:01:02 PM »
Please note toad and iron... I'm not saying you two want the troops pulled out immediately.  But you have to acknowledge that the tone of this thread was going that way, to the point that Iron had to mention the "after a stable government has been established" in his post.

And.. once again... that spoke only for what Iron posted.

Maybe you guys are seeing things the same way right now because you're just used to it?

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« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2003, 06:01:09 PM »
Think what you like; it's obvious you're convinced you're right.

Coincidentally, I'm sure I know how I interpreted it and what I meant when I wrote it.

I'm going with me, sorry.
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« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2003, 06:02:48 PM »
LOL! I know how you interpreted it toad.  You've stated as much.  You continue to do so.

And... you've done so contrary to what was posted.

Sorry... but you need to re-read what you just wrote.

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