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Offline Sixpence

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« on: April 30, 2003, 03:37:29 PM »
How do you think your team faired? I think the Patriots did well. This was a weak draft, but next year is supposed to be one of the deepest drafts in years, and we set ourselves up for it. We have 8 picks in the first four rounds next year( 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 1 third, and 3 fourth round picks) We will be in real good position to trade up because teams will consider mid round picks to be of value.

I think Dan Klecko was an interesting pick also. I'm not sold on the Ty Warren pick, but we needed a D-lineman and they all got scooped up. He's a big dude, so I'm hoping he's a player.


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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2003, 04:17:19 PM »
Good draft for the Raiders I think.  The team doesn't have any major weakness right now other than age at a few positions.  No obvious first year starters, but they are filling in depth at positions where they will need a guy in a few years.  

Asomugha (31) is a big DB who runs like hell.  Probably will end up at safety, replacing R. Woodson in a couple of years.

Brayton (32) will help them at DE, where they need help with the decline of Armstrong.  My understanding is that Brayton is a tweener and can play DT too.  Should fit into the platoon DL concept the Raiders use.  I still think they have to either trade for or sign a star pass rushing DE to move the defense to the next level.

Johnson (63) is a cool pick I think.  He is another tweener, a WR in a TE's body.  He's probably too slow to start at WR but the Raiders use a lot of multi TE sets where he will be perfect.

They got an LB and a RB in the 3rd.  The RB is the son of Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch.  :)

Round 4 they got an undersized DE who runs a 4.4 40.

5-6-7 they got a WR, a tackle and a safety.

Nothing huge in there but I think they dealt with their biggest needs.  We'll see how good these guys turn out to be.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2003, 04:54:20 PM »
Can't believe the bucs wasted a pic on Chris Simms.

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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2003, 05:20:46 PM »
PITTSBURGH GOT A DEFENSIVE BACK.

Who cares if he's any good or not, what they had last year suked.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2003, 05:21:56 PM »
who would have been a better pick then chris simms at that point? really? noone on that draft board has a chance of starting for the bucs in the next 2 years. And no offence to texas fans but your coach sucks. sucks hard. Watching gruden turn simms into a NFL caliber QB in the next few years will be interesting. I understand you texans hate him and blame him for every lose you ever had. but its your coach's fault really.

Look at the bucs. same team ,same coaching staff. bye bye dungy hello gruden. wow they beat the hell out of everyone in the playoffs. and they made the raiders look like the joke they are.

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2003, 06:17:00 PM »
49rs seem to have gotten a real deal on that Miami QB in the 7th round.

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2003, 06:34:05 PM »
Did you ever watch Simms play?  Don't tell me you bought his agent's "it was all the coaching" crap, if that was the case Applewhite with no skills wouldn't have had the all conference career he did.

At least there is a replacement for Rob Johnson now.  The output will be quite similar (except probably more interceptions).

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2003, 08:40:18 PM »
simms will be a 3d string qb for a while, they have jim miller to stink up the joint if brad gets injured.

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2003, 09:37:25 PM »
Speaking of QB's, the Patriots drafted some guy named Kliff Kingsbury in the 6th round.

Never heard of him.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2003, 10:49:55 PM »
brady who?

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2003, 11:39:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Frogm4n

Look at the bucs. same team ,same coaching staff. bye bye dungy hello gruden. wow they beat the hell out of everyone in the playoffs. and they made the raiders look like the joke they are.


Yeah the Raiders are terrible.  Averaged 11 wins over the last 3 years.  Terrible!  :)

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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2003, 12:27:49 AM »
that is pretty sad. Most of the franchises in the leage wished they had grudens previos team to field. They seem to have done well in the draft too.

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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2003, 12:51:26 AM »
PS:  I read some more about the LB and 4.4 sec DE the Raiders took, and they are both expected to play a pass rushing LB spot in the 3-4 and Nickel.  So it looks like they are going to continue with the platoon DL where they have specialists for each down, instead of going after more expensive linemen who can do everything well.
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2003, 04:15:17 AM »
without gruden its all downhill

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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2003, 04:33:30 AM »
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Speaking of QB's, the Patriots drafted some guy named Kliff Kingsbury in the 6th round.

Never heard of him.

He's from Texas Tech. Excellent QB!! Led NCAA Div 1-A with 5017 yds,43 TD's, and avg 358.4 Yds per game.:D
« Last Edit: May 01, 2003, 04:45:06 AM by rpm »
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