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Offline davidpt40

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Faking your way out of combat?
« on: May 03, 2003, 03:53:42 AM »
I've tried a few times (unsucessfully) to put my plane into a violent spin so that my advisaries would think I was crippled and crashing.

During the Big Week scenario a group of 15 to 20 Fw190s and Me109s came through my bomber formation and blew us to bits.  I was at 30k and suddenly alone.  After taking a few more hits I put my B17 into a spin all the way to 10k.  No dice, the bloodsuckers followed me down and finished me off (I bailed after losing a wing).

So has anyone been able to sucessfully 'fake-out' an opponent ?

MA is a bad environment for this though, usually there are 5 or 10 guys shooting at half a fuselage as it races towards the ground on fire.

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2003, 04:16:16 AM »
Yes i did it a couple of times sucessfully.
But most of the MA usually shot a plane to pieces. I never waist ammo. If i see him cranking down i brake off and watch what he is doing.If i see him flying straight 10k lower ill go after him again, if the situation let me.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2003, 05:55:26 AM »
Too many parasites for that to work in MA indeed.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2003, 06:35:15 AM »
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Too many parasites for that to work in MA indeed.


lol, was watching 5 knits chase to the ground a smoking flaming wreck................and they were still shooting it!

Fake ur way outta dat!
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2003, 08:10:21 AM »
If it can cast a shadow someone will shoot it.

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2003, 08:56:54 AM »
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If it can cast a shadow someone will shoot it.


Well said sax.

That describes the MA mentality perfectly :D

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2003, 10:13:27 AM »
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Well said sax.

That describes the MA mentality perfectly :D


Isnt that what makes the MA so fun? The pure ruthlessness.
If you can survive in the MA you are a good pile it. If you can survive the MA in a plane that cruises at 300 or less you are
a dangerous pile it. If you can survive with a positive kill ration in a plane that cruises below 250 ias you are the ****!

The ruthlessness of the MA is what attracts me.

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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2003, 10:43:36 AM »
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Isnt that what makes the MA so fun? The pure ruthlessness


You might be on to somethin there.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2003, 10:54:55 AM »
it works about the same as hitting the dirt if you get shot and hit in a game like americas army...if the guys a real doornob he'll bait...

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Re: Faking your way out of combat?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2003, 07:22:40 PM »
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Originally posted by davidpt40
I've tried a few times (unsucessfully) to put my plane into a violent spin so that my advisaries would think I was crippled and crashing.

During the Big Week scenario a group of 15 to 20 Fw190s and Me109s came through my bomber formation and blew us to bits.  I was at 30k and suddenly alone.  After taking a few more hits I put my B17 into a spin all the way to 10k.  No dice, the bloodsuckers followed me down and finished me off (I bailed after losing a wing).

So has anyone been able to sucessfully 'fake-out' an opponent ?

MA is a bad environment for this though, usually there are 5 or 10 guys shooting at half a fuselage as it races towards the ground on fire.


The scary part is that it's a historical tactic.  I met a B-17 pilot who did this once.

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2003, 11:22:33 PM »
Apparently it worked for him Funked?

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2003, 11:53:58 PM »
Yeah, he lived.  I'm not sure the spin was intentional though.  :)

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2003, 11:55:46 PM »
Here's the story:
http://www.afa.org/magazine/valor/0197valor.html
I forgot that he blacked out.  When he told it in person he definitely said it was a spin though.

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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2003, 05:01:42 AM »
Even IRL there's a dweeb diving down to 1k... ;)