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« on: May 04, 2003, 04:33:56 PM »
....Is that they have Beet1e.

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2003, 07:43:10 PM »
Is that tumbleweed drifting by and by?
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2003, 08:54:11 PM »
Hey Dowding, we'll swap ya Nuke for Beatle. ;)

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2003, 09:14:09 PM »
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Originally posted by Dowding
Is that tumbleweed drifting by and by?


tumbleweeds don't drift.

c'mon Dowding!

when a problem comes along, you must whiop iit!
« Last Edit: May 04, 2003, 09:18:03 PM by NUKE »

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2003, 10:12:54 PM »
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Hey Dowding, we'll swap ya Nuke for Beatle. ;)


The hell we will!!!!!!!!

We'll keep nuke as beetle is MUCH worse thank you!

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2003, 10:14:30 PM »
the best thing about the uk is that our dictators are glossed over very well and restrictive laws are sneaked in almost unoticed.

our present goverment prior to being elected promised no tax increases at all.

hooray for them!
now let me see, ummm  15 tax increases since they came into power.

thats what makes us great
the united kingdom is one of the best places to live!
if your not british that is:(

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2003, 11:49:07 PM »
Dracken,

I bet those taxes are nothing compared to finnish taxes.. :>

Like one good example is the casette fee/tax, or whatever in english.
Has to pay little bit of money for empty casettes (including CD's and such recordable media)

and the money goes to an institution which is supposed to watch after the copyright laws.

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Teosto's role
Teosto acts as a link between the creators and users of music. Teosto grants on behalf of copyright owners all permits and licences required for the use of music, collects the licence fees and distributes the collected fees to the copyright owners on the basis of programme details (repertoire lists etc.) which Teosto receives from the users of music.
After having acquired Teosto's permit or licence, the music user practically has the whole world's musical treasures at his disposal.


With the casette fee/tax, they assume always that the casettes will be bought in intention to record copyrighted material on it and therefore they collect this 'casette fee/tax', which is supposedly compensation for the producers/publishers for home recordings.


Latest innovation from them was to ban playing music in cabs, when having a customer, unless they've paid taxes for it.
Same thing has been also planned for schools and kindergartens.


Costs for recorded media;
picture casette: 0.76 cents per minute
audio casette: 0.50 cents per minute
audio CD-R & RW: 0.50 cents per minute
minidisc: 0.50 cents per minute
computer CD-R & RW: 0.25 cents per minute

Costs for recordable media;
Recordable video DVD (DVD-R/RW video, DVD-RAM, DVD+RW): 0.76 cents for each begining minute

Computer recordable DVD (DVD-R/RW data, DVD-RAM, DVD+RW): Audio; 0.13 + video; 0.19 cents per minute

MP3 players: 0.50 cents per minute (according to amount of audio which can be saved on the player)

For example a recordable 240 minute VHS casette would have over 18 euros casette fee/tax.

So go figure...

They always assume that people will be recording copyrighted media on something and therefore collects copyright costs.
plus what comes to media shown in public places. (institutions, busses, cabs, stores... and so on)

and they've been also sharing misleading anti-piratism notices. (somewhat exagerated ones)


Of course we have those lovely TV permit fees, like in UK.
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2003, 12:27:19 AM »
wow fishu that is rough.
do you realise every country has an office which is full of very sad no lifes.
whose sole purpose in life is to think up new laws and taxes.

someone in the uk decided to clean old chipshop oil and mix it with additive to run in a diesel car, great use of a waste product.

but know it is illegal as it has not had a fuel tax paid on it.
so what happens when the old steam powered traction engines go on their shows?
solar power? just how are they going to tax an individual on the amount of sun they using.

a friend of mine owns a 200 year old water mill.
if he hooked up a dynamo to the wheel the water board would hit him with a huge bill for extraction fees.
although he is not extracting the water.

when you dig deep we are  not a lot different to old russia and many other seemingly oppressed countries.
our leaders just paint it all over in a prettier colour.

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2003, 01:25:33 AM »
So if you buy a data CD-R, you're paying .0025 Euros per minute.  .0025 Euros x 80 minutes = 20 cents per CD-R.

So if you buy a 100 pack of CD-Rs to back up your small business data, you're paying 20 Euros in taxes on them?

Over here, that'd be doubling the price.  100% tax rate.  Wow.

I bet that makes CD-RWs pretty attractive then.

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2003, 01:44:01 AM »
At least after hard pressure, Finland changed export car taxing and prices went down like 40% for exported cars.
One reason why we have one of the oldest car generations in EU :>
You've literally had to pay tax for taxes with exported cars and finally EU found out theres something wrong with the taxing of exported cars.



Dracken1,

We have loads of those no lifers here in Finland.

Nutty taxes there as well I see..



Tarmac,

.0025 euros * 80 minutes.

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2003, 01:54:02 AM »
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.0025 euros * 80 minutes.


Yeah, that works out to .2 euros for a CD-R, right?

Just saying that if you bought a 100 pack of CD-Rs, the taxes would add up to about the same as the CD-Rs themselves.  At least with US CD-R prices ($20 or so for 100)... don't know how much they cost over there.

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2003, 02:12:44 AM »
Newcastle Brown Ale

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2003, 02:56:09 AM »
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Originally posted by funkedup
Newcastle Brown Ale



Uggh nasty chemical muck!
There are many much better beers than that, starting with my personal favourite
Ringwoods Old Thumper

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2003, 09:39:20 AM »
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solar power? just how are they going to tax an individual on the amount of sun they using.


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reminds me of a song

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Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

Don't ask me what I want it for
If you don't want to pay some more
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
And you're working for no one but me.


Pretty good lyrics.....but then it's the Beatles  :)