Author Topic: F4U Ammo load (Read 1444 times)

F4UDOA · « **on:** May 06, 2003, 12:50:18 PM »

Could you please throw the F4U drivers out there a bone and let us take off without bringing the entire armory up with us?

Currently the F4U has 700LBS of .50 cal ammo on take off everytime. Other birds have ammo load options why not the F4U?

With 50% ammo you still have more than the P-51B!!

FYI a 50% ammo load on the F4U would save 350LBS.

brady · « **Reply #1 on:** May 06, 2003, 01:45:18 PM »

Ya know I realy wish they would do more along these line's I could (and have) writen out lists as long as my arm covering missing wrong and combanations of ordance load out's in AH. It would realy add a lot to the game and seams so simple a thing to do.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #2 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:03:34 PM »

I am in favor of a slider bar for ammo and fuel.

It doesn't make that much differance in many of the Europlanes but it makes a huge difference in these flying gas cans with giant ammo cases.

With 100% internal fuel and ammo the F4U-1 weights 12,835LBS. With 50% fuel and ammo it weights 11,402LBS.

That is a huge difference in performance.

There are no points for getting shot down with the most ammo and fuel on board.

214thCavalier · « **Reply #3 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:10:55 PM »

I dunno i usually take full fuel and even Dts without any adverse effects.

However the option i guess would be good.

brady · « **Reply #4 on:** May 06, 2003, 02:43:58 PM »

I would like to be able to decide which tanks are filled as well and which ones burn first, to set a fuel burn sequence i mean.

I also would like to be able to use drop tanks even if we have some fuel bunker damage at certain fields, what i mean by this is if were not taking a full fuel load we should be able to still use drop tanks as long as were not down to like 25% only fuel. I almost always use a drop tank with a lighter fuel load in the plane.

Vermillion · « **Reply #5 on:** May 07, 2003, 06:38:20 AM »

Just shoot off half your ammo on the runway !

Of course if your flying for points that can really hurt the old hit % though.

Karnak · « **Reply #6 on:** May 07, 2003, 08:06:33 PM »

While they're at it they can throw the Japanese a bone buy removing the multi-stage flaps from the F6F. It had binary flaps like the Spitfire, eg. up or down and nothing in between.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 07, 2003, 08:12:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
While they're at it they can throw the Japanese a bone buy removing the multi-stage flaps from the F6F. It had binary flaps like the Spitfire, eg. up or down and nothing in between.

The F6f-3 had two stage flaps. The F6f-5 has multistage, from what I've read.

Gainsie.

F4UDOA, there are a few things stacked against the Corsairs in here, good that you're making a poit of it.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #8 on:** May 07, 2003, 09:37:36 PM »

Redtail,

I have some new docs on the F4U-1A with a paddle prop.

430MPH at WEP and 417MPH at Mil. at 20K. 3200FPM at combat power at 12,000LBS and it holds it up over 10K.

One really weird thing about our F4U-1 is that it is not really a -1 or a -1A. It has the WEP of the -1A but the canopy of the -1. Also it has the toothpic prop instead of the paddle blade.

Also the kicker is that it has the bad stall of the -1 (pre-spoiler strip on the starboard wing to correct asymetrical stall) but it doesn't have the higher Clmax of the -1 which should mean a lower stall than the -1D at the same weight.

Soi basically it has the bad qualities but not the benifit.

I would rather HTC give the -1A a bubble canopy and the paddle prop and make it a 1944 fighter (our -1D is neutered because of full time rocket rails and pylons) and add a true early 1943 F4U-1 without WEP and bad stall. That way it could be used in scenarios as the current F4U-1A is not.

I have all the test data HTC would need even with British clipped wings.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 08, 2003, 03:19:26 PM »

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Originally posted by F4UDOA
Redtail,

I have some new docs on the F4U-1A with a paddle
So basically it has the bad qualities but not the benifit.

I would rather HTC give the -1A a bubble canopy and the paddle prop and make it a 1944 fighter (our -1D is neutered because of full time rocket rails and pylons) and add a true early 1943 F4U-1 without WEP and bad stall. That way it could be used in scenarios as the current F4U-1A is not.

I have all the test data HTC would need even with British clipped wings.

Oh send the data! All the hogs in here are geldings save the F4U-4..sadly not enough guys fly them to make a real stink about it. I'd LOVE to see the pics if you have them.

~~Gainsie~~

Nifty · « **Reply #10 on:** May 08, 2003, 03:51:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
sadly not enough guys fly them

you weren't here before the CHog got perked were ya?

yeah, as to the original thread. any customization of loadouts would be beneficial.

then again, as someone said, just take less fuel and fire off the rounds on the ground or in the air before you engage until they do get around to fixing it.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 08, 2003, 04:48:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Nifty
you weren't here before the CHog got perked were ya?

yeah, as to the original thread. any customization of loadouts would be beneficial.

then again, as someone said, just take less fuel and fire off the rounds on the ground or in the air before you engage until they do get around to fixing it.

No,I seemed to have just missed it, although I been flying the Corsairs since 1996 in other simulations. I'm not a huge fan of the C Hog though, I prefer the 1 or 4. I prefer the machine guns.

brady · « **Reply #12 on:** May 08, 2003, 07:08:37 PM »

Ya that C Hog was a freaking Monster back then, It was to "Dweaby" for my taste's, I finialy broke down and gave it a go for a day once thought to make a point, I got over 100kill's in like 6 hours in the MA with it in an afternoon/evening, I used that experance to start a thread to get it perked (one of many, by a lot of people).

MwXX · « **Reply #13 on:** May 09, 2003, 10:12:23 AM »

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FYI a 50% ammo load on the F4U would save 350LBS.

or?? you could just lose the weight? Atkins works well...

Reschke · « **Reply #14 on:** May 09, 2003, 10:59:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Oh send the data! All the hogs in here are geldings save the F4U-4..sadly not enough guys fly them to make a real stink about it. I'd LOVE to see the pics if you have them.

~~Gainsie~~

You are absolutely correct in that not enough of us here make a stink about it. Our squadron is based on the historical VF-17 and we tend to fly the -1 as a group most of the time.

I still have not gotten an F4U-1D off the CV with 100% fuel/ammo/rockets and 2k in bombs. I have tried every setting known to man in AH and nothing works better than 20% of the time. Well as I have said its me and not everyone else.

There are many things that I would like to see changed but I don't have the time to sit here and gather info and send it all in to HTC. Hopefully the -1 will get a makeover in AH2 as will the -1D.