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Offline RightF00T

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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2003, 11:16:12 PM »
I read in another source it was at 33,000 feet, 45 mins after takeoff.
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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2003, 12:05:31 AM »
Must be the first major airplane disaster where the plane actually lands.
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Offline davidpt40

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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2003, 03:16:34 AM »
This is about as bad as when that C5a in Vietnam lost control because the back ramp blew off and severed the hyrdraulics.  It was carrying a large group of South Vietnamese orphans.  Believe it crashed and burned while trying to land.
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2003, 03:35:06 AM »
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we could have easily had a supersonic passenger jet in the 60's.

I guess if we had wanted to operate a money-losing plane just to be hip, we could have done that.


"Could've, should've, would've."
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2003, 04:03:06 AM »
IL-76 Dweeb :p
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2003, 01:50:56 PM »
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"Could've, should've, would've."

Could've, but not should've or would've.   Same goes with the new generation of ultra-mega-jumbo jet Airbus is developing.  Just a real cool way to waste lots of money.

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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2003, 05:22:42 PM »
Well, just a theory, but.. If a hatch opens in the back of a fast moving aircraft, the air is travelling over it, and  re-converging at the back of the aircraft could create a suction on the inside of the the plane, sucking any cargo or unbuckled passengers out. :)
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2003, 05:41:59 PM »
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"Could've, should've, would've."


The decision to cancel the US SST was based on economics, (proved correct) and environmental damage to the ozone.

Wow, the US was worried about the ozone layer 30 years before Kyoto...
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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2003, 05:45:06 PM »
Ukrainean sources say that no one died...

http://www.gazeta.ru/2003/05/09/last85352.shtml
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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2003, 05:49:40 PM »
But on same site it saying that AC was carring 350 people. About 100 learned how to fly....hard way.
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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2003, 07:22:39 AM »
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The decision to cancel the US SST was based on economics, (proved correct) and environmental damage to the ozone.

Wow, the US was worried about the ozone layer 30 years before Kyoto...


That's right, the US invented atmospheric science.

"The Boeing 2707-300 was chosen over the Lockheed L2000 as the USA's new supersonic airliner design.  It was never built though due to a change in environmental factors (the fuel crisis caused kerosene to become expensive and the protests over the pending Concorde flights into New York and Washington).  Also Boeing were still fighting with increasing problems over the complex and over-ambitious design.  In 1971 the American SST project was cancelled."

That's right, it was just about economic and environmental concerns. Nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't actually working.

And besides, the moon shot "wasn't economical". Since when has economics mattered in terms of international prestige? The fact that Britain and France chose to heavily subsidise Concorde tells you something about that. They did it for the prestige, not because of economics.
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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2003, 07:27:53 AM »
Dowding which airplane is more succesful and important in the world, the 747 or the Concorde? Moreover mind telling us which of the two is getting canned later this year?



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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2003, 07:33:08 AM »
Two different planes operating in two different worlds. No fair comparison.

A better comparison would be the US SST and Concorde. One of which flew for 30 years without accident and the other... well... it looked good on the drawing board didn't it?

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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2003, 08:03:46 AM »
Nope. It was a contest between Concorde and 747 as concepts, one big the other fast - guess who won? :D
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« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2003, 08:24:45 AM »
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Nope. It was a contest between Concorde and 747 as concepts, one big the other fast - guess who won? :D


The one making less noise than the anti-noise law and sucking less fuel per pax.
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