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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2003, 09:30:19 PM »
November is coming. Perhaps the voters of the districts the legislators are paid to represent remember this little escapade. In the short run, perhaps a bit of impeachment is in order. Certainly a lack of responsibility on the part of the escapees. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2003, 09:41:22 PM »
hmmmm, "The 2003 Purge"
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2003, 09:50:27 PM »
Hilarious and ludicrous at the same time.  A case of mass mental illness.

The best line from the article:  "We refuse to participate in an inherently unfair process that slams the door of opportunity in the face of Texas voters," they said in a statement read by state Sen. Rodney Ellis.

Unfortunately for Texas state house Democrats, they controlled minority rules while in the majority as well.  One element of forward-thinking, strategic partisan leadership involves granting reasonable rights to the minority party because your own party may become the minority one day.  If the process unfairly excludes now-minority Democrats, it's because then-majority Democrats designed it that way.  In so doing, they've probably also made it very difficult to ensure minority rights for themselves from a vindictive Republican majority.  For shame.

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2003, 10:07:58 PM »
They should make a law whereby the deadlines are extended by the exact same length of time as they are unable to convene the House due to the no-shows. It would make stunts like this useless.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2003, 10:38:35 PM »
At least our taxes aren't getting raised.
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2003, 10:51:04 PM »
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Sounds like they need a new set of rules at the Texas House.

You get the government you deserve, cowboys.



FU tofu boy

We GOT the goverment we "deserved" I guess when Clinton was in office did we?

And I suppose you will also say we are GETTING the goverment we "deserve" with Bush in office?

FU again in case you missed it the first time.

Smoke another one ignorant brain dead boy

IMHO the Democrats are sh*t birds no matter what the state.  Just in your case both the Dem and Reps are sh*t birds.
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2003, 10:55:38 PM »
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FU tofu boy

We GOT the goverment we "deserved" I guess when Clinton was in office did we?

And I suppose you will also say we are GETTING the goverment we "deserve" with Bush in office?

FU again in case you missed it the first time.

Smoke another one ignorant brain dead boy


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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2003, 11:00:23 PM »
Ouch. :eek:

I would edit that Sandman, before Skuzzy sees it!
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2003, 11:27:44 PM »
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I think the Dem's in Texas (yes, I'm Texan) deserve to be arrested.  They are pretty spineless to "disappear".  That is my call.

What I don't like is that fact the someone from California who didn't vote in Texas is saying that I DESERVE my representitives.  Especially when I voted Republican.

So once again...a big FU to sandman...better check your backyard there sandman.

A joke while I was stationed in CA ya bastage...How can you tell the difference between a democrate and republican in california?   You can't.

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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2003, 11:29:36 PM »
Do any of you even know WHY the Dem's walked? The Ultra-Right Republicans are attempting to limit Medical Malpractice Suits at some rediculously low amount ($100,000 I belive, may be wrong).
This is WONDERFUL you say? Wait until a member of your family is horribly killed or permenantly disabled by some quack and you have to pay for a lifetime of expences. It's a bad bill and they don't have the votes to overturn. WOO HOO VOTE REPUBLICAN, We'll make sure the rich stay that way.
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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2003, 11:51:00 PM »
thats 100 000 on punitive damages and doesnt effect an overall claim. Some Doctors here in NE staged a "walk out" refusing to do complicated procedures or surgery at all until the florida house passes a law to limit punitive damages to 250k.

Punitive damages are just a part of a malpractice suit. Suppose doctors stopped doing certain high risk procedures because they fear being slammed with outrageous punitive damages? The main drive, as reported here, for doctors settling some of the frivilous malpractice suits are fear of punitive damages.

You are trying to paint some biased picture of evil republicans denying rights to patients who were mal treated by their doctor. Thats not true at all.
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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2003, 11:52:40 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2003, 12:05:16 AM »
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This is WONDERFUL you say? Wait until a member of your family is horribly killed or permenantly disabled by some quack and you have to pay for a lifetime of expences. It's a bad bill and they don't have the votes to overturn. WOO HOO VOTE REPUBLICAN, We'll make sure the rich stay that way.


It's not a matter of policy or even party.  The Democrats acted in a willfully illegal manner in an attempt to thwart the democratic process.  Why make rules governing procedure if one party chooses to simply ignore them when they see fit?  The entire ordeal undermines the legislature and makes a mockery of the Texas state house.

Unless, y'know, you actually thought the caning of Charles Sumner was a good way to resolve legislative disputes.

Fight the fight, but fight it within the rules.  If the Democrats feel so locked out of the process that they must resort to extra-legal manuevers, then they should ask themselves why they shaped the rules in such a way when they were in the majority so as to totally marginalize themselves now that they're the minority.

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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2003, 12:50:35 AM »
I was wrong on the amount.

"In addition, C.S.H.B. 4 addresses the health care crisis by including the following proposals:

_A $250,000 cap on non-economic damages to be applied on a per-defendant basis.
_Clarifies that allegation of certain criminal conduct is insufficient to lift the limitations on the award of punitive damages.
_Allows the supreme court on motion of any party to assign a more specialized judge to a health care liability claim.
 _Other substantive, procedural and technical changes."

That also includes wrongful death. i.e. A Doctor makes the error of giving your child the wrong blood. The mistake is not corrected and the child dies. You can sue for the medical expences incurred (pay the Doctor Bill)and $250,000, unless the Doctor's net worth is less than $500,000, in which case you can sue for 1/2. THATS ALL!  It's a bad bill, and yes it was written by a Republican.
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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2003, 12:56:18 AM »
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THATS ALL!  It's a bad bill, and yes it was written by a Republican.


God forbid a Democrat should ever write a bad bill.  In the unlikely event it should ever happen, let's hope the Texas Republicans don't go running for the hills.

In any event, from what I've been reading, the walkout was partially in response to a Republican redistricting plan that the Democrats vehemently opposed.  

Link:  http://www.msnbc.com/news/912803.asp?0dm=C23IN

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