Author Topic: OT: Website setup, options, programs, sites ?? (Read 661 times)

nopoop · « **on:** May 12, 2003, 07:39:35 PM »

I know this is going to be booted but this is where I'll get the info.

Want to set up a website, but don't want the basic blah, blah setup. Some nice squad websites here. Where do I go, what do I do etc. etc.

First time out, programs I need ?? FTP site ??? INSTRUCTIONS ??

Looks like a good learning curve.

Any help, suggestions greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Saintaw · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2003, 02:40:46 AM »

I can only recommend you get Dreamweaver trial from http://www.macromedia.com (it's an HTML editor, but it has an FTP program imbedded).

It Will be ugly at 1st, just keep trying, you'll improve for sure. And I recall you do have a lot of nice pictures to put on.

devious · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2003, 06:45:44 AM »

*cough*

emacs

The best editor there is. Then, get a working knowledge of HTML and CSS. Some Perl scripting and a free database as PostreSQL or MySQL, and you`re done.

HTML (in german, dunno if its available in eglish, too)

http://teamone.de/selfhtml - HTML and CSS reference

http://www.perl.org - the PERL language and PERL interpreters

Things to avoid in a webpage:

JavaScript, VBScript and such crap (We got applets you know)

Required Flash - nice for eyecandy, but if someone cant find your navigation bar in Lynx, he won`t visit again

Saintaw · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2003, 06:49:32 AM »

I think he said he's Starting Devious, you want to throw him into PERL ?

Start with HTML poop, 1st things 1st I'd say

straffo · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2003, 07:05:23 AM »

It's worst Sawitto he want him to do LISP(*) !

Seriouly I won't recommand EMACS(**) to any non coder/guru.

(*) Longue et ininterrompue suite de parenthese / Lots of Irritating Superfluous Parentheses

(**) Escape Meta Alt Control Shift or Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping

BlkKnit · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2003, 12:44:14 PM »

Homestead

has an downloadable editor, for easy use...no coding required. If you want to learn html, there are online classes for it (my wife is taking one) that teach more about it than I know or even heard of.

check out this for an example of possibilities with homestead:

VMFA232 Red Devils (MAW)

you can email me from there if you have any questions....maybe (MAYBE!) I can answer them.

TheManx · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2003, 02:04:00 PM »

Skip learning HTML and just jump in to PHP. It's one of the easiest languages to learn, and there is a tonne of resources on the web for it.

devious · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2003, 04:48:07 PM »

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Originally posted by straffo
It's worst Sawitto he want him to do LISP(*) !

Seriouly I won't recommand EMACS(**) to any non coder/guru.

(*) Longue et ininterrompue suite de parenthese / Lots of Irritating Superfluous Parentheses

(**) Escape Meta Alt Control Shift or Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping

On any machine, on any OS, the first thing i do is to install emacs.

I work with it, I read mail and news with it, even browse the web.

There is only one true editor, and the editor is emacs.

You shall have no other editor besides the one true editor.

nntp://alt.religion.emacs

devious · « **Reply #8 on:** May 13, 2003, 04:51:55 PM »

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Originally posted by TheManx
Skip learning HTML and just jump in to PHP. It's one of the easiest languages to learn, and there is a tonne of resources on the web for it.

I don`t wanna sound squeaky, but PHP basically is a PERL dialect, where the code is executed as the server puts out the page. The result is still HTML, and a good knowledge of what it does is the basic requirement for designing webpages.

Saintaw · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2003, 06:27:43 PM »

lol, I'm waiting with a club for the first one that comes in here & dares talk about VI

akak · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:09:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
lol, I'm waiting with a club for the first one that comes in here & dares talk about VI

So what are your thoughts on VI?

Ack-Ack

straffo · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:19:30 AM »

Devious can you point me a windows distribution for lazy coder ?.

Duedel · « **Reply #12 on:** May 14, 2003, 06:26:04 AM »

Just buy Visual Studio.NET and learn ASP.NET cause Microsoft is COOL and the VS-Editor is much cooler than emacs

BTW U can only use VI if u are long haired have a scruffy full beard and the only attractant ur body produces smells like a mixture of old pizza prosciutto y funghi, coke, cold coffee and nicotine.

Saintaw · « **Reply #13 on:** May 14, 2003, 08:12:19 AM »

AKAK, please regard Duedel's reply regarding VI as my own. (Even if I am nowhere close to that description, I used to code on it for a while... then, one day...someone sent me a link to UltraEdit... evolution, evolution...

)

Poop, if you want this to remain a hobby & not a job... I'd still recommend the Macromedia suite

devious · « **Reply #14 on:** May 14, 2003, 09:49:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Duedel
Just buy Visual Studio.NET and learn ASP.NET cause Microsoft is COOL and the VS-Editor is much cooler than emacs

VS.NET ?! That 25gb POS with the false documentation ?

Quote

BTW U can only use VI if u are long haired have a scruffy full beard and the only attractant ur body produces smells like a mixture of old pizza prosciutto y funghi, coke, cold coffee and nicotine. [/B]

VI is ok to use for installing emacs. Real Programmers have Peperoni or Jalapenos on their pizza

For a windows port, look at http://ftp://ftp.cs.washington.edu/pub/ntemacs