Author Topic: Opinion on Mustang GTs? (Read 4239 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 14, 2003, 08:46:12 AM »

all this apples and oranges stuff is getting silly... there is the mustang Gt with live axle and there is the cobra with independent.

Also...furball... nice try but.... the TVR doesn't even have bumpers... in order to make it legal here it would probly lose 50 HP and gain 300 lbs...now... buy a lingfelter Vette and I will be more than glad to take your bet. The Vette will have 30-40 mph top speed on your tvr and outaccelerate it and outcorner it and all with the airconditioner on and it will be street legal in 50 states. It will be years ahead of the TVR in all aspects... there are people out there who do the same thing on a limitited basis for the viper and Mustang... even so... they produce more cars than TVR does.

rip... ok.. now... drive a 95 Saleen or a used Roush Mustang against a new BMW and you will feel like you are in a slow, ill handling wuss mobile in the BMW. During the acceleration runs u might even accidentally open the door on the BMW to get out thinking you are stopped if you drive it right after the mustang.

I like australia for cars except that they drive on the wrong side of the road... they make some very well put together hot rods (some of myu buds in the modified Healey club live there and their work is flawless)and... they don't have the corprate restrictions on factory cars we do... the Holden is an American car built in australia and will be the next GTO in the U.S.
lazs

Ripsnort · « **Reply #61 on:** May 14, 2003, 09:00:25 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2

rip... ok.. now... drive a 95 Saleen or a used Roush Mustang against a new BMW and you will feel like you are in a slow, ill handling wuss mobile in the BMW. During the acceleration runs u might even accidentally open the door on the BMW to get out thinking you are stopped if you drive it right after the mustang.

Well, then put that 95 Saleen or a used Roush Mustang up against a Dinan M3 or an Alpina M3

If you're going to stack the odds, do it within class.

I'd gladly take a Dinan'ized M3 up against the 95 Saleen or a used Roush Mustang in a track situation other than a 1/4 mile.

Emptygun26 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 14, 2003, 09:04:53 AM »

Bottom line. A 03 Mustange GT has a 4.6 lt SOHC V8 pushing 260 HP, and 300 ft lbs of torque. You get to roll around hearing the rumble of a sweet V-8, and chicks just dig them. Now for that you pay around 24K.
Or you can pay 18K for a Honda Civic, which starts out around 118 HP with a V-tech 4 cyl, 90 ft lbs of torque. You can spend another 10K getting it up to 260 HP, and if your lucky 200 ft lbs of torque. You also get to roll around sounding like a bubble bee on crack, and you get a "really cool wing" on your car, that doesnt help get the car off the ground, or keep the car on the ground.
Ricers Suck.

Roush Stage 3
Vortech SQ Supercharger @ 10 psi w/aftercooler
Anderson Power Pipe
42# injectors
3.73 gears
Roush options include complete badging, tool box, seats, floor mats, pedals, chrome wheels, suspension, subframes
UPR cruise control buttons, window/door lock buttons, wiper switch cover, e-brake handle, shifter base bezel, gauge insert
Pioneer DEH-P8400MP CD player/CDX-P1280 12 disc changer,
Billet radiator cap/power steering/washer fluid covers,
Gauge bezel, gauge pod that houses Autometer Phantom guages (air/fuel, boost).
490 RWHP with 422 RWTQ

Anytime someone with a "wing" and a barrel full of bubble bees attached to the back of the car, wants to race, let me know.

Dowding · « **Reply #63 on:** May 14, 2003, 09:05:05 AM »

Driving in straight lines is for old men.

Emptygun26 · « **Reply #64 on:** May 14, 2003, 09:12:37 AM »

straight lines huh?

Roush mustangs were built around a race track, they out turn even the 00 Mustang Cobra R.

http://www.roushperf.com/testdroad.htm

Furball · « **Reply #65 on:** May 14, 2003, 09:28:39 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2

Also...furball... nice try but.... the TVR doesn't even have bumpers... in order to make it legal here it would probly lose 50 HP and gain 300 lbs...now... buy a lingfelter Vette and I will be more than glad to take your bet. The Vette will have 30-40 mph top speed on your tvr and outaccelerate it and outcorner it and all with the airconditioner on and it will be street legal in 50 states. It will be years ahead of the TVR in all aspects... there are people out there who do the same thing on a limitited basis for the viper and Mustang... even so... they produce more cars than TVR does.

A vette outcornering a TVR...... thats utter bull****

Now... you are talking about a Lingenfelter vette.. you shouldn't be comparing it to the TVR Tuscan. You should be comparing it to the TVR Speed 12. Which will outaccelerate, outrun, out-turn the vette.

Drivetrain
Engine 90º V12
Engine location Front, longitudinally mounted
Displacement 7.730 liter / 471.7 cu in
Valvetrain 4 valves/cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
Gearbox 6 Speed Manual
Drive Rear wheel drive

Performance figures
Power 800 bhp / 596.8 kW @ 7250 rpm
BHP/Liter 103.5
Torque 881 Nm / 649.8 ft lbs @ 5750 rpm
Power to weight ratio 0.75 bhp/kg
Top Speed 240mph
0-60 mph Acceleration 3.20 s

Ripsnort · « **Reply #66 on:** May 14, 2003, 10:26:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Emptygun26
straight lines huh?

Roush mustangs were built around a race track, they out turn even the 00 Mustang Cobra R.

http://www.roushperf.com/testdroad.htm

Dinan Stage 3 BMW M3 would own you on a race track, seen it live out at Pacific Raceways.

Emptygun26 · « **Reply #67 on:** May 14, 2003, 10:29:10 AM »

Maybe so, but agin your missing the V-8. Whats a car without a V-8? The BMW M3 is an inline 6 isnt it? You might take me in the turns, but get me on the back straight, where I can make my really long legs run..... and its a whole diffrent ball game.

Mini D · « **Reply #68 on:** May 14, 2003, 10:36:36 AM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
I thought Uncle Sam had a "don't ask don't tell policy".
A new challenger to MiniD's crown as owner of the gayest car in the FDP's!

He blew right by me for gayest car in the FDBs. Of course, SOB hold's the title for most pimp daddy car in the FDBs.

MiniD

Mini D · « **Reply #69 on:** May 14, 2003, 10:37:20 AM »

BTW funked... don't you drive an impreza? If I recall... that "rav4" rental I had blew your POS off the road.

Pozer.

MiniD

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #70 on:** May 14, 2003, 10:37:24 AM »

So what if its a V8? As long as it has the hp and torque? What if BMW put a V8 in the M3 would you change your tune then, because it just seems a few of you wanna put down the BMW as a brand...

funkedup · « **Reply #71 on:** May 14, 2003, 10:37:25 AM »

Man the limeys aren't real up to date on Vettes and Vipers. They need to watch Le Mans more carefully.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #72 on:** May 14, 2003, 11:30:10 AM »

Bow before me with your puny power outputs and your death shall be quick and painless.

1997 911 Turbo
3.6L F6 TT
400 HP
400 lbs/ft
Rear engine/AWD
6spd Man
0-60 4.0 sec

...STOCK!

Sigh... someday...

PS: Very nice Emptygun.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #73 on:** May 14, 2003, 11:39:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Emptygun26
Maybe so, but agin your missing the V-8. Whats a car without a V-8? The BMW M3 is an inline 6 isnt it? You might take me in the turns, but get me on the back straight, where I can make my really long legs run..... and its a whole diffrent ball game.

Yeah, just a (Dinan'd) 380 HP Straight 6 thats about 75 lbs. lighter than your Roush V8...

Seriously though, I haven't driven the Roush Mustang, but I have compared the Cobra SVT suspension to the 3 Series (Sports Suspension) and there *was* no comparison, BMW all the way on stock equipment. (I really wanted that Cobra though, American muscle car and all...however, it just didn't fit my requirements)

Vermillion · « **Reply #74 on:** May 14, 2003, 11:44:06 AM »

LOL! If you Euro types think Vette's and Vipers are "straight line" only cars, you are seriously fooling yourself !!

Raub, you actually bought a Miata? Ouchhh.....

Bring it to the CON, and I'll bring my Mustang GT, and I'll show you what your missing.

Seriously, mine is a 95 model that I bought new, and its been a great car. Reliable, nice dollar to performance ratio, and just a good little car all around.

The only thing I dislike is the way it eats up expensive tires.