Author Topic: Opinion on Mustang GTs? (Read 4620 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #75 on:** May 14, 2003, 11:59:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Vermillion

The only thing I dislike is the way it eats up expensive tires.

Z or ZR rated tires are only good for about 15-25,000 miles at the most. Very soft and sticky. Unfortunately I need new tires (Have you checked out the tirerack.com? Best damn prices anywhere!) Anyway, I'm looking for new ones in June, should only set me back $700.

funkedup · « **Reply #76 on:** May 14, 2003, 12:13:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
BTW funked... don't you drive an impreza? If I recall... that "rav4" rental I had blew your POS off the road.

Pozer.

MiniD

How dare you!

I drive a Justy, not an Impreza!
Real men do it with 3 cylinders.

Furball · « **Reply #77 on:** May 14, 2003, 12:18:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Vermillion
LOL! If you Euro types think Vette's and Vipers are "straight line" only cars, you are seriously fooling yourself !!

They probably corner well. Just not as good as most European types.

funkedup · « **Reply #78 on:** May 14, 2003, 12:32:17 PM »

Furball you gotta be kidding me.

Furball · « **Reply #79 on:** May 14, 2003, 12:32:52 PM »

Ripsnort · « **Reply #80 on:** May 14, 2003, 12:35:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
They probably corner well. Just not as good as most European types.

If you're speaking of factory stock suspensions, they (late model Vettes) have superior suspensions to any BMW brand on the market. If you're speaking Porsche, well, I can't comment on something I know nothing about.

funkedup · « **Reply #81 on:** May 14, 2003, 12:47:36 PM »

Furball, the Corvette Z06 is capable of 1g on the skidpad. The Viper is right in the same ballpark as well. They are extremely agile cars and lighter than many of the European supercars, particularly some of the porky Porsches. You brits seem to be hung up on 60's stereotypes of American cars.

hyena426 · « **Reply #82 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:08:33 PM »

some vets and vipers do corner good, some people dont realize how good even the old cars corner,,,i raced my cousins beefed up mazda rotary car,,,down a twisty road country road in my big fat 73 mustang,,,well around 15 mph corners i was keeping my car about 55,,him about 60,,but out of the corners i would out power him badly and pass him every time,,he said his cornering ablity wasnt good anuff to win aginst power and only good cornering,,and this is when i let him lead the race,,when i started first down the road leading the way,,he said he couldnt hang with me,,power made the diffrence<~~so in aces high its like a spittfire racing a fw190d9 down a canon,,the spittfire can out turn the fw,,,but the fw turns just good anuff to use its power and speed to win the race

lazs2 · « **Reply #83 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:19:27 PM »

furball... there are levels of lingfelter vettes... you seem to be missing the point... you are trying to compare a car with allmost no production numbers against and assembly line Corvette that cost half of the tvr and then... when I say it would be better to compare a limited (tho still not as limited as the tvr) and LEGAL to drive lingfelter vette that still costs less than the TVR you cry foull and want to compare a special handbuilt tvr with allmost NO production...so I say ok... the vett can still beat that with the 1250 HP dual turbocharged linfgfelter 6 speed that is less money and higher production than the tvr.. Pick a level of tvr and I can find a vette or viper that will beat it in every category.... including cost and sophistication. I see lot's of vettes in production class races but I don't see many tvr's.... don't see any winning. soory bud... GM put millions into research on their suspension... it is one of the best if not the best of any productin car.

rip does the same thing... he takes bmw's that cost twice as much and compares em to assembly line Fords and Chevies... When you up the anty a little he resorts to BMW's that are race cars that are never seen on the streets. And stilll.... give me that money and I will build a Mustang that will beat it.

as funked said... you guys are living on legend that dates back to the sixties. I don't know what courses you guys think the vettes and Roush Mustangs can't corner at... I don't know what course a comparably priced BMW could compete with a Roush Mustang unless..... it is that horshoe driveway course in front of the country club where pink cashmere sweaters are the norm instead of nomex.
lazs

MrCoffee · « **Reply #84 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:24:08 PM »

Hum, Mustang or BMW for racing or driving on the track. I would probably take the street modified Mustang because the idea of a car that likes to use up its tires quickly appeals to me.

Now for pure factory build race cars I would take the beemer of course.

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #85 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:25:51 PM »

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Dowding · « **Reply #86 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:31:08 PM »

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Man the limeys aren't real up to date on Vettes and Vipers. They need to watch Le Mans more carefully.

Come on. Compare like for like. A race modified car, equipped and tuned up by a professional team is not the same car I could buy out of a dealership.

Can I buy a TVR Tuscan Speed 6 from a normal TVR dealer? Yup.

This lingfelter thing sounds like a specialised shop.

A good comparison would be the best TVR production model (i.e. showroom) versus it's contemporary vette or viper. Not externally altered cars like the Speed 12 or the lingfelter etc.

funkedup · « **Reply #87 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:40:47 PM »

Dowding that's true, but the class of racing that the Vipers have dominated uses cars which are very similar to the stock cars, and are sold directly by Dodge.

lazs2 · « **Reply #88 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:43:32 PM »

you can buy lingenfelters or ruuff's or Roush or saleens from most dealers and you will get a factory waranty plus the specialty waranty. You will still spend less than the TVR and you will be able to own the car in any state.
lazs

Dowding · « **Reply #89 on:** May 14, 2003, 01:49:39 PM »

From most dealers? That sounds a bit restrictive to me. I can buy the top of the range Tuscan from any TVR dealer - I'm talking about the equivalent vette or viper.

As for the 'legal in any state' - that's a moot argument. I bet several of those cars are illegal over here, like the TVRs are illegal over there apparently. Comparitively, I can drive a TVR in any part of Britain, just as you can drive your cars anywhere in the US.

I'd seriously like to see the Tuscan Speed 6 go up against a top of the range corvette or viper on a decent track. Shame I've never anyone do it.