legal question

[-Concho-]

As far as your states' transportations code I would research your states definition of parking, standing, and stoping.  Usually each means something different.

[Creamo]

You shouldn't park there for any reason of course. Pull over and wait a minute or 2? Not a great idea, but lotsa people do it. Don't see why you'd get a ticket.

 At ORD they look at you and give you the signal to move, and you better.

I'd pay the $25 and thank god that you aren't standing at an airport writing $25 tickets to people who don't know better about parking. Imagine what decisions let to his career path, and then you'll understand why you just didn't get a warning and hurried along.

[Leslie]

Sounds to me like the security guy was doing his job.  At an airport especially, he'd more than likely get in trouble himself if he allowed you to "loiter" there for more than 30 seconds.

I know that here at the Mobile Airport, there is no dropping off of people under the covered area near the main entrance, i.e. no stopping at all.  You gotta go park in the parking lot to disembark (people and baggage) to the airport.  Same for picking up arrivals.

Zigrat,  please don't take this the wrong way...but I'll tell this little anecdote because it has to do with police.  It's kinda off topic anyway, and doesn't apply to your situation, I'm sure.

A few years ago, a student at the local university had the mindset that he was going to make the Police toe the line when it came to obeying speed laws.  After all, everyone else had to, and he'd recently gotten a ticket for speeding himself.  So he followed a speeding police car (on a code 2 call...no lights or siren?) up to speeds of 80 mph and eventually "pulled over" the police car and issued the Sergeant driving the car a "ticket" for speeding.  

Now the sergeant was supposedly amused and didn't take this guy seriously.  The sergeant had been in special forces in Vietnam, and was, at the time of this incident, operator of a Kung Fu school...that's probably why he didn't over react to the student's civic zeal.  Don't recall reading in the paper whether he arrested the guy.  I think he just took the "ticket" and got back to his original call.

But, to make a long story short, the case went to court, and the student got a speeding ticket because of his own defense.  He claimed he knew how fast the officer was going, because he was right behind him in his car and read the speedometer.  The court found him guilty of speeding by his own admission.

LOL

Les  

PS- this same student came under scrutiny a couple years later.  He was seen exchanging objects with another student in a closed book store parking lot at night, by campus police.  CP had been keeping an eye on this parking lot due to drug activity in the area.  Turns out, the student was writing term papers, essays, etc... for pay and delivering the product to another student.  (This is what he claimed.)

He just started riding off on his bicycle when told to halt by campus police, who called back-up and the city police, after the student ran and went into a nearby house.  He holed up in there for almost eight hours after producing a shotgun and threatening police, who eventually fired tear gas into the house and arrested him without incident.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Zigrat
ok i was at the airport, stopped for 1-2 minutes (less than 1 song played) in a "no parking" zone.

A NO PARKING sign means you may stop only temporarily to load or unload merchandise or passengers.

[/b]

Guilty.

Next.

[Creamo]

See what I mean Zig?

[Martlet]

Most likely you'll be able to beat it if you show up in court and plead not guilty.  Talk to the DA before court, but on the same day.

[AWMac]

Zig, Plead Not Guilty by reason of insanity!




*This is getting better....need to make some popcorn*

[Airhead]

Zigrat must look like a real putz and the Cop could tell by looking at him that if he gave him a ticket he'd probably cry like a little girl about it all over the Internet.

Personally I think we should take a page from Singapore's justice system and cane the bottoms of the feet of illegal parkers. And if Steve Hortlund were assigned the case that's exactly what would happen.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Airhead
Zigrat must look like a real putz and the Cop could tell by looking at him that if he gave him a ticket he'd probably cry like a little girl about it all over the Internet.

Personally I think we should take a page from Singapore's justice system and cane the bottoms of the feet of illegal parkers. And if Steve Hortlund were assigned the case that's exactly what would happen.

I agree.  I think difference here is that he was in his car with the engine running.  Ignorance of the law is no excuse, but I would have assumed that was ok also.  IMO, giving a ticket in that case is just a jerk move, regardless of how legitimate it is.  It takes less time to explain it is illegale to even stop there, and ask him to move.

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Airhead
Zigrat must look like a real putz and the Cop could tell by looking at him that if he gave him a ticket he'd probably cry like a little girl about it all over the Internet.

Personally I think we should take a page from Singapore's justice system and cane the bottoms of the feet of illegal parkers. And if Steve Hortlund were assigned the case that's exactly what would happen.

How could that be Airhead?  Hortlund is in Sweden.  He has no jurisdiction over what goes on in Singapore.  

I doubt caning is done in the fashion you describe, even in Singapore.



Les

[Hortlund]

muahahah

Little do you know about the extent of my powers.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by Leslie
How could that be Airhead?  Hortlund is in Sweden.  He has no jurisdiction over what goes on in Singapore.  

I doubt caning is done in the fashion you describe, even in Singapore.



Les

Well, they both start with S and they both have corpral punishment, only in Sweden they beat you with a dead fish instead of a Karat.

I think they cane the butt in Singapore but I'm not sure. I know one time when I was about 10 years old my Uncle caught me, my brother and three of his kids up in the olive trees (they had an orchard) after he'd warned us repeatedly to stay out of them. He made my oldest cousin pick a stout olive switch and line up.

One at a time he'd ask "Were you in that olive tree?" and one at a time he got a "Yes father" answer or "Yes Uncle" answer, and he'd flail the hind end of the kids until they screamed. I was last in line, and when he asked me "Were you in that olive tree?" I answered "Heck no, I was only trying to make everybody else get down." He laughed so hard he couldn't swing the switch as hard as he had on my brother and cousins, so I learned at an early age that if you're caught red handed the best policy is to deny everything.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Zigrat
1) what the sign said was "no parking, loading and unloading only" (this was curbside by the baggage claim) and 2) he didnt tell me to move he gave me the ticket. i wouldnt be posting here if he had just explained the sign rather than writing me up. i am not an unintelligent person so i bet many others are also confused by this, and they just bet that it isn't worth our time to fight it so you just pay the 25 dollars. well i am not gonna let this guy win even though the hours it will cost me are worth way more than 25 bucks. the ******* questioned my ability to read the sign and rolled his eyes when i explained i didnt think i was doing anything wrong. it did not say "no parking any time".

If you had been truly intelligent you would have understood that the intent of the sign was to keep things moving. You were not loading or unloading. You were stopped and waiting for someone to arrive. Had your passenger been there and got in without your waiting, listening to the radio, you wouldn't have been botered at all.

It is not the Officers job to explain a sign that you as a licensed driver are EXPECTED to be able to comprehend BEFORE you go out on the road.

It is also not their responsibility to "try the case" there on the curb.

I still find this to be a whine and a refusal to accept the consequences of your actions. Hardly a mature way to act.

[Rude]

We're missing the part about the snotty look on his face and the indignant tone in his voice...but hey...that shouldn't matter, right?

Time to ture up a bit Zig....learn to pick your fights more carefully in the future.

[Leslie]

My airport experience was in Paris, France at Orly.  I was on a student exchange program with students from Spain.  This was back in 1976.  I was about 18 or so, and going in line to get on the plane to Madrid.  A man came up and placed me first in line to go through the litttle curtained off cubicle, where a French security agent checked everyone's pockets and carry on baggage.

Back then I looked like a long haired, bearded Viking barbarian...so I assume that's why they placed me first in line.  The Security agent asked me to empty my pockets (he didn't even look through my carry-on bag).  I did, and showed him a small pocket knife, which, being from the South, was no big deal for us.  The Frenchman became a bit excited and said "Knif" (Kneef), to which I said "Knife" (Nife.)  I held out my hand and he returned it to me, but was very reluctant to let me pass, until the first guy came in and said it was OK.  Guess they were looking for something else, probably drugs.

So I went to Spain for six weeks and returned through Charles deGaul Airport...actually got to see a Concorde take off.

Customs seemed kinda lax to me upon my return to New York City.  I bought a .22 pepperbox pistol in Madrid (black powder), and claimed this item on the claims list.  Customs never checked for it, and passed me through without a search of my luggage.  The item must not have been contraband, but it sure seemed strange to me, in after thought, that something like this could occur.  Could have been they didn't read the list.

Of course this was back in 1976, when you probably couldn't get in trouble for that.  Btw, the pepperbox is about as powerful as a BB gun, and would make a better weapon throwing it at someone after the shots are used up.



Les