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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2003, 09:40:37 AM »
well laughing boy... I land more than half my sorties.  Guess rank doesn't mean any more than building battling.   The fight is the thing.  

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Offline muckmaw

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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2003, 09:52:15 AM »
Your my kind of guy, Dred.

Are you in a squad?

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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2003, 11:06:39 AM »
Didn't I see mention of "ranks" in AHII:TOD? If this is true, I think it will not be a big hit. I don't see myself taking orders from some pimply-faced geek with a pnus-derived CPID for too long. (No Swagger - I ain't talking about you....). I have a hard enough time taking orders from my wife.

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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2003, 11:39:41 PM »
Lets try and not count the ones where you up, then end mission cause ya grabbed the wrong plane shall we.  ::grin::


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well laughing boy... I land more than half my sorties.  
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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2003, 11:44:47 PM »
Rgr That.
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Your my kind of guy, Dred.

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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2003, 07:56:01 AM »
I think that laughing boy is thinking of someone else...  Have you thought of adding a "drool" at the end of every laughing/grinning acronym?   would be very accurate.
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« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2003, 09:51:02 AM »
OhMyGAWD!!!

(Jumps up on podium)

Listen, furballer/duellists.  There is a duelling arena.  If you want to have your one-on-one, two-on-two, or whatever, go there, get a plane, and fight it out to find out which pilot has the bigger gun and the slicker moves.  Not everybody in here wants to be a latter-day Erich Hartmann, though...some of us like to play a different way.  

I ENJOY BOMBING YOUR AIRFIELDS.  I GET A KICK OUT OF STRAFING DEFENSELESS TOWNS.  I LIKE SHOOTING DOWN PLANES WHILE THEY TRY TO TAKE OFF.  I DON'T COMPLAIN WHEN THAT HAPPENS TO ME--IT'S PART OF THE GAME.  

By the way, I also don't complain when one of you furballer types comes out of your narcissistic pile of planes and shoots down my heavy P38 while I'm on my way to pork your base.  Nor do I complain when I can't get one of you clowns (on my side) to give me a hand when I'm getting chased by one of the enemy furballers, or goon hunters.  I usually don't piss and moan about the fact that one of my "friends" will use me as bait to get the guy that's chasing me.

You children remind me of  "it's my ball, play my way" ten-year-olds.  Live with the way the game works, find another game, or get the skills to WRITE YOUR OWN.

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« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2003, 05:34:54 PM »
Forget the fruit...watch out for the flaming arrows.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pork some airfield's fuel.:D

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« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2003, 05:38:45 PM »
you wanna strat...strat


you wanna furball...furball

just dont whine about the other type when they do something you dont like

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« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2003, 08:26:02 AM »
there are furballers and there are building battlers..  neither should have an unbalanced effect on the other.  the talent required should match the effect.  

 rshubert should not be able to take out a cv by making himself into a bomb and ruin the fight that a dozen or 2 guys are having... certainly I feel for him... he can't shoot down other planes so he needs to fell useful... the buildings offer very little input and the Ai ack and Ai features don't seem to do it for him.. I guess the only difference between being here and in a boxed game for him is the chance that he will be discovered and, invariably, shot down if a human finds him...  

The new resuply system and field capture is part of the problem... the new longer distances between fields maps are another part... the fields are too hard to capture and too far apart.  they tend to be rendered useless and then the fight doesn't exist except for several sectors away... that leaves little choice but to be in the gangbang or be gangbanged.  neither is fun.    Watching guys suicide heavy 38's into your field makes you respect your fellow players and the game less.   The animosity builds.  

Fighting a group of guys defending or attacking two close fields leads to great fights between the fields where everyone feels that they have a good chance of engaging and getting out if they are hurt.. the fights tend to be more equal... the dar is more representitive of what is really happening (as oppossed to what it is when the field is 2 sectors away)... the close and hard won fights build respect for the other players (on either side) and for the game.
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« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2003, 06:37:58 PM »
HI guys i want to have a buddy for AIM messenger my SN is naziteck

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« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2003, 08:16:44 AM »
welcome nazi... you should email beetle.
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« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2003, 03:22:48 PM »
Well said rshubert!!

I enjoy exactly what you describe, but I also enjoy the close hard fought battles that are difficult to find in the MA.  The problem is, that the MA is such a fluid, constantly changing environment.  No matter what we do to the game, there will always be inbalances.  The pros and cons of different environmental settings (IE: Strat target toughness) may or may not solve the problems discussed here, but it will surely give rise to some other variable/problem which will be the subject of much debate in the future.  

When I feel that bases are too far apart, I find one that is closer.  Sometimes a base I am flying from has porked fuel, then I fly from another one (usually retaliating by porking the enemy fuel).  Sometimes the carrier I am flying from gets nailed, so I find another one that is already engaged, and fly from there.  

There are plenty of options available on the new larger maps, everyone should be able to find a situation in a short period of time that is to their liking if they just look hard enough.  Unlike the smaller maps, the number of options is significantly greater, you just have to go find them.  We can't tailor make situations that are to our liking.  The joy of the engagement is that it is always different than the last one.  Strat target toughness forces us to go find a different fight, or change the one we are currently in.  

If someone (myself included) wants to fly a sector and a half and turn himself into a flying bomb, that is fine with me, he is the one that wasted the long flight to get there for a few seconds of glory.  Whatever floats your boat (or sinks it).  This game is not broken!  Please don't try to fix it.  I do not subscribe to the mentality 'fix it till it is broke!'   That is what some of these arguments sound like to me.  This game strikes a pretty darn good balance for all types of players.

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« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2003, 03:46:20 PM »
tracerx, you are in error. How can a porked, frontline field be further away than another? Hint, it can't.  If you can't up from the frontline field, you have to up from a field further away. Thats upping from a closer field?

When your field is fuel porked, you up from another field. Is that one of the "closer" back fields?

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« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2003, 07:13:46 PM »
Sorry to confuse you Apache, I am not trying to say that upping from another unporked base would be closer to the enemy base (I think I have actually seen this happen once or twice though). Rather, that in the case of porked fields, I either find another set of fields that are close together, or up from another base and try to pork the enemy fuel to make things even.  The examples I gave are separate and independant from each other, do not try to combine them into one example.  Hope that clears it up.