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Offline Ack-Ack

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2003, 07:27:36 PM »
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Originally posted by rc51
I'm talking about zone alarm.
Maybe i should have said firewall sry for the miss understanding.
It locks up my machine hard.
Have to do a hard reboot.




To get AH to work properly with Zone Alarm you have to give it permission for AH to access the Internet.

To do this, just bring up Zone Alarm and click on the Programs tab.  If you scroll down the program list, you should see a list of all the programs that have either asked or been granted access to the Internet.  Find AH and click on it and check 'Allow Access'.  Then right click on the AH listing and check 'Changes Frequently', this way you won't have to worry about giving it permission to access the Internet after you've patched AH.


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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2003, 07:41:06 AM »
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Originally posted by Maniac
I would suggest using Lotus Notes instead of outlook :)


Lotus sucks, the interface blows

I'm going to assume that you aren't from an English speaking country because your English is horrible, let alone your spelling.

What I find really funny is your generalizations; the comment regarding using a hex editor is hilarious.  This would only be possible if it were a compiled executable.  Although this is changing rapidly, you can now embed viruses in JPG's and the like. While incredibly hard, it's still possible to do...

The other thing is the majority of "viruses" out there today are worms, this shows how out of date you really are...

Actually you have one thing right, Antivirus won't stop every Trojan out there, but then having a decent firewall, which can alert you to questionable out going traffic and SPI, also helps...


Cheers,

P.S. use a spell checker; my head hurts trying to figure some of your sentences out.

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« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2003, 12:25:16 AM »
Making your own systems and gaming for a few years does not make a person savvy enough to speak on the level I recognize Maniac as coming from.

From what I have read in Maniacs posts I recognize the knowledge behind what maniac says. I have 8 yrs of combined hands on retail repair and network admin behind me, and have been "Hex Editing" files since I was 15, I am now 31. Can we say experience? Anyone remember the days of DOS and modifying COMMAND.COM to rename all the commands and error messages on a hapless victim?

As maniac Said, AV Programs are only a partial solution, and security on any windows system, especially XP is an oxymoron the likes of Military Intelligence, and Microsoft Works. AV Salesmen or women are the same whether they are selling software or underwear. They are going to hype the product, people buy emotionaly not logically. The People in IT who have to deal with 100's of frustrated employee's screaming that their machines are not working right have to be the ones who can see through that hype (Better known as BS). Those who make and perpetuate that hype are the type that would be offended by reality.

Software firewalls on the victims PC running any brand of windows products only wastes what resources windows does not. - The best solution from a security standpoint is to have a hardware solution for a firewall. Don't get me started on how Unix has been on the scene in this capacity.

Furthermore, if you're so frustrated by the defeat of your agurments that you have to attack the delivery of said argument by railing about spelling and grammer you might as well throw the chess board across the room too.

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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2003, 08:17:02 AM »
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What I find really funny is your generalizations.


What generalizations? can you be more specific? please do point them out for me cause i cant see them.

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the comment regarding using a hex editor is hilarious. This would only be possible if it were a compiled executable.


Yes im talking trojans when im referring to hex editing and trojans are compiled executables.

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The other thing is the majority of "viruses" out there today are worms, this shows how out of date you really are...


Have you read the whole thread? ive said plenty of times i do not mess with worms, as the way i see an worm is djust an mean of spreading your malicous file thru exploits. (means of delivery)

And lastly, im not from an English speaking country so im really sorry if your head hurts again.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2003, 08:29:23 AM by Maniac »
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2003, 08:27:07 AM »
Follow up on hex editing.

If you take your detected trojan of choice, and then split the file into many many little files.

And then let your AV software do an scan on the splitted files the AV will report wich splitted file wich contains the AV signature.

Now you got an nice and nimble little file to play with using the hex editor...

Do you catch my drift?
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