Author Topic: Online cheating (Read 670 times)

Wilfrid · « **on:** May 25, 2003, 06:35:26 AM »

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"It's akin to being burgled and having your most treasured possessions stolen," says veteran player Rob Miles. "

I'm guessing this guy has never been burgled and had his most treasured possessions stolen.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2003, 06:53:13 AM »

Best part of the article:

"Did you know most cheaters come from France?"

When you cant beat them and you cant run - cheat!

Batz · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2003, 10:19:50 AM »

I just read that

vorticon · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2003, 11:29:34 AM »

there wrong...cheaters dont cheat becqause they can they cheat because they suck...and to them i repeatedly say: if you cant take the action...**** off

Dowding · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2003, 12:49:45 PM »

Classic Wilf, classic.

All is well in the world when all people have to worry about is cheating in some virtual world.

XNachoX · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2003, 12:50:07 PM »

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Originally posted by vorticon
there wrong...cheaters dont cheat becqause they can they cheat because they suck...and to them i repeatedly say: if you cant take the action...**** off

They're. , Don't. Because. They can. , can't

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Martlet · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2003, 01:17:47 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Best part of the article:

"Did you know most cheaters come from France?"

When you cant beat them and you cant run - cheat!

I saw that. Oddly, I wasn't surprised.

Vulcan · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2003, 12:53:07 AM »

Just to add fuel to the flames... you boys oughta see whats going on in the WW2OL forums. On Friday night (my time) the server went down, previous to the system going down someone using a Speed Hack had been rapidly grabbing territory. Its unclear whether the Speed Hack actually took the server offline or whether CRS took it down to prevent the Speed Hack continuing.

Either way its causing much unhappiness there, compiled by the fact CRS moderators delete most references to it in the discussion forums giving an the company air of 'denial'.

Man HTC lets get away with murder here

(oh yes and I believe the culprit was playing FOR France

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straffo · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2003, 02:17:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
(oh yes and I believe the culprit was playing FOR France )

Obviouly.

gofaster · « **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2003, 01:31:51 PM »

Some interesting tidbits from the article (in case the link disappears).

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Angry soldiers have flooded America's Army forums demanding action. "For this not to be addressed is a slap in the face to all of us who are busting our humps to get honour points," said "Sloppy", one poster.

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An external security company, Even Balance, has been hired to deploy Punkbuster, its state-of-the-art, anti-cheat technology, to protect its players. Like a virus-checker, Punkbuster scans players' computers for illegal hacks. Those who are caught face lifetime bans. Its creator, Tony Ray, is a passionate anti-cheat crusader with a single message: "Cheating destroys." He has no truck with cheaters, or "punks" as he calls them. For him, they are the same as criminals.

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The only thing he hates more than a cheater is a cheater-coder (or "hax0r" as they are known in gaming patois). Hax0rs are almost universally maligned. Most are young kids, around 12 to 14 years old, although some are as young as nine. Ruinously bright, they hunger for the pure intellectual buzz they get from hacking a protection system. They know they are bringing online gaming to its knees, but don't seem to care.

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"I'm famous," says Joolz, a well-known cheat coder from the south of England. By day, he's a corporate software engineer, by night the famed creator of Joolz Cheatz, arch-hack for the most popular action game on the net, Half-Life: CounterStrike. Of an evening, Joolz likes nothing better than taking on the "gits" who create anti-cheats. He loves the challenge. "I've used my skills to beat the game," he says.

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"One of my favourite creations is called Lookaim. If you've got your back to someone and they look at you, it spins you round and shoots them. You looking at me? Bang! Not any more you're not!"

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As Punkbuster's Tony Ray says: "One vice-president of a top publisher told me that they believe it is in their best interests to let the cheating destroy a game so the players will get mad and move on to their next title."

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The US army has all this to look forward to. By releasing America's Army, they may have been drawn into a battle they have no chance of winning, since there is one thing the cheaters and the anti-cheaters agree on. "Games will be cheat-free the same day society is crime-free," says Punkbuster's Tony Ray. "As long as bad people think they can get away with doing bad things, they will try and some will succeed."

Joolz agrees. Cheating will never be stamped out. He accepts he is partly to blame, but remains unapologetic. "I don't see cheating as wholly right. But why do people cheat at anything? Whether it's athletics or any sort of sport, they cheat because they can."

I guess its a good thing I have more than 1 interest in my spare time, and a social life!

Vulcan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2003, 02:54:39 PM »

What AH?

And the BBS?

yeah I spose thats more than one interest!