carry on minado*quicker change*

[SELECTOR]

I for one is tired of the slow change over of maps.Don't get me wrong, the map(minado)are very skillfully created with great detail.
I think the problem is with the difficuly is taking bases. this leads to stalemate which can last for days. I don't know of a perinent solution but i thought when you didn't have to destroy the whole town things moved along a lot quicker. What do people think?
Another thing which may be worth thinking about is, if all the large fields and depots with the HQ down would mean a win.
I like most of you reading this love this game but a full week of the same map makes me wish i could surrender..
All thoughts and ideas can be discused.
Selector

 

[FlyingDuckSittingSwan]

You guys dont like a long war do ya? Don't like to earn your bread. A war is about attrition, by the way.
Sounds abit like a premature ejaculation problem you have here in AH.
None of you like to team play, or not many, anyway. Most of you just think about stats, kills and run away at the slightest possibility of being shot down.
The way I used to play was that I would always escort a lone bomber if I happened across one and I would always try to help a team mate, even if the odds were badly stacked against me.
Bah...!

[Tac]

Heh, you just wait for the 1 player-4 bombers and you will see the fields falling quik-ly!

Swanboy here is right, no teamwork. The ONLY reason why the isles map is rotated so fast is thanks to the cv-sponsored super furballs , the uterus switches because the fields are presented in fronts of 2-3 fields at a time (read: more furballs). Mindanao has many raised fields and does not have a front line, that is why it doesn't switch so quick..furballing dont work well in mindanao.

[FlyingDuckSittingSwan]

Yeah and something else I want to add...
When someone organises a mission, why don't people fly in formation? Formation flying isn't just to look good, it's tactics.
I took part in one of Ripsnorts good missions. There were 6 buffs, and about 10 attackers and about 6 fighters. We were all over the place, except for me flying escort with my fighter. The bombers were sort of in formation, but a couple were on a different alt. Well, a lone P-51 comes in and wreaks havoc. He got two of the buffs, and ran off with half the "escort" chasing. It was hilarious. I can imagine if it had happened in WW2 there would be a lot of court-martials after the mission.

[Dago]

FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
 Sounds abit like a premature ejaculation problem you have here in AH.

Just what this community needs, someone who can't respond without trying to insult others.  

 

FlyingDuckSittingSwan:  The way I used to play was

Why did you quit playing this way?  

 

FlyingDuckSittingSwan: and I would always try to help a team mate, even if the odds were badly stacked against me.  

I have a new hero (swoon).

hahahahah

 

When someone organises a mission, why don't people fly in formation? Formation flying isn't just to look good, it's tactics.[/b]

As the RAF quickly found out in WW2, flying formation looks real nice at airshows, but in WW2 combat, without effective close in radar, you have a choice, fly close formation, or watch for enemy aircraft.  You can't do both when you are flying a fighter.  Add to that even small amounts of lag and the ability to fly formation in AH is out the window.  

Dago

[ 11-25-2001: Message edited by: Dago ]

[FlyingDuckSittingSwan]

Just what this community needs, someone who can't respond without trying to insult others.

Hmm...yeah. Cos everyone so polite in this community.  

 

Why did you quit playing this way?  

cos my 2 weeks was up

 

I have a new hero (swoon).  

if only you were female.      


 

As the RAF quickly found out in WW2, flying formation looks real nice at airshows, but in WW2 combat, without effective close in radar, you have a choice, fly close formation, or watch for enemy aircraft. You can't do both when you are flying a fighter. Add to that even small amounts of lag and the ability to fly formation in AH is out the window.

I beg to differ....

 

 

[K West]

You just showed two formations of Spitfires specifically staged the way they are for photographs.  Is that how you think they flew in combat?

 Westy

[hazed-]

jesus like hes the first guy in AH to want to fly in formations or use true tactics.What do you think we've been trying to get people to do for the last 2 years?
you want organised formations i suggest you play the next scenario.Afrika corps was awsome for bomber formations because people were there to play for real rather than just up and look for action.

I organise missions and usually i stick to one type of airforce purely for this reason.I like to see all LW or all USAAF and i like to fly in formation.Unfortunately not everyone else does.
Im sure if you was in charge things would be different right? jees FDSS why post crap like that? you deliberately want to annoy people in AH?

<sigh>

[sling322]

Not looking to start any trouble here, but if you would bother to stick around longer than your 2 weeks you might learn a little.  The MA is just that...the MA...its there for fun and games.  If you want to get involved in historical stuff where formations are involved and teamwork is implemented, then you need to try the Special Events that are held by the CM team.  

As far as I am concerned, the MA is only practice for special events.  You cant force anyone in there to fly the way you want them to no matter how hard you try.

[Apar]

punt

[J_A_B]

Teamwork is overrated.

I don't need to leech off a wingman to get kills, and I sure don't need a wingman to save my bellybutton if I do something stupid.  More importantly, I sure as heck don't want to be taking orders from someone else in a game I pay for!  

I can "work" with friendlies without having to formally team up with them--by not ganging onto the same plane they are and such tactics.

Teamwork/squadron tactics work well in scenarios because that's the only way to win.  In the MA, however, teamwork is unnecessary.

J_A_B

[FlyingDuckSittingSwan]

No Hazed, I'm not trying to annoy people.
If I was running this game I'd make some ground rules:

rule 1) You have to fly in formation
rule 2) No planes to fly without a wingman
rule 3) If you saw an unescorted bomber you had to escort him/her
rule 4) NO shooting of parachutes


and if you didn;t stick to these rules, I'd perma-ban you!      

I bet I'd get more people playing.    

At the end of the day, this game as it is now, is like playing chess, quake style!!! It comes down to who gets the quickest shot in. No tactics, no camaraderi, bravery, sacrifice...nada.
When I used to find a lone bomber, I used to tail him for a while, then I'd overtake him and do a salute with my wings to show I was gonna be his escort. Then I'd just chase off bandits all the time, that was my mission. And I'll tell you one thing, it was more satisfying then: takeoff; join furball; wait for easy target; shoot down easy target; rinse and repeat. bah!
This game is quite historical in the items we use, why do we have to spoil it when it comes to playing it? If nobody wants to play historically, then why not just add an F-14 as a perk plane?

[ 11-25-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]

[SirLoin]

That'show Spits flew until they learned the hard way and started copying the German "Finger Four"..

[FlyingDuckSittingSwan]

Wrong Sirloin...the second pic shows Hispanos. They used mk1's in the BoB. No Hispanos on the mk1's. They learnt to use the finger 4 in the BoB.

And flying formation IN COMBAT seems more logical to me then flying with separation. Why? Because, you have separation of 300 yards and spread over 4 planes would be over 1,000 yards from the left most plane to the right most. Say one of the planes on the extreme spot a finger 4 of 109's pop outta the clouds a few hundred yards away and is bearing down on his 6, they wont all be able to react in time and so are dead.
If you find a lone fighter and you are in close formation, he's dead. Spread apart he has a good chance. Seems logical.  

[sling322]

Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
No Hazed, I'm not trying to annoy people.
If I was running this game I'd make some ground rules:

rule 1) You have to fly in formation
rule 2) No planes to fly without a wingman
rule 3) If you saw an unescorted bomber you had to escort him/her
rule 4) NO shooting of parachutes


and if you didn;t stick to these rules, I'd perma-ban you!      

I bet I'd get more people playing.    

[ 11-25-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]

HA!!  Let me be the first to say, I am glad you do not run this game.  And also let me be the first to say, that you are wrong about getting more people playing if it was run your way.  There are a lot of folks in here who only have a short time to get in get kills and get out.  They have their fun their way and you can have yours your way....forcing someone to have fun your way will never work.

And another thing....isnt your 2 weeks up?  Be gone with you!!