Author Topic: Ki-61  (Read 1106 times)

Offline Oldman731

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9504
Ki-61
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2003, 11:48:26 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by ra
The Ki-61 is a better BnZ fighter than the A6M, other than that it is mediocre all around.

The Tony takes some getting used to.  Probably the most important thing is to recognize that, like most Axis planes, you shouldn't shoot unless you're under 250 yards, and really not unless your a lot closer than that.  The Tony has a fairly narrow maneuvering speed range, generally anywhere in the 200s.  Faster, and you start to compress; slower, and it doesn't turn well.

Once you learn fire discipline and how to keep it in the speed range, though, this plane is a killer.  Zeke, Hellcat and FM2 can probably turn just a bit better, Spitfire as well, but otherwise no one is going to out-turn you, and you can go up while those planes are busy turning.  It's easy to keep within your speed range with just a little practice, because the plane has very good energy qualities.  Unlike other Japanese planes, this one is quick enough that you can generally keep the other guy from getting away (unless he's just a plain old boom-&-zoomer).

We fly the Tony quite a lot in CT.  Took me awhile to figure it out, but now it really is my favorite Japanese plane, and it can more than hold its own with any of the Allied planes, other than the Spit and, perhaps, the FM2.

- oldman

Offline KyleF

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Ki-61
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2003, 12:22:40 PM »
The Ki61 is a deffinate turn fighter until it runs down below the 100MPH range to which it becomes a slow, unmanuverable flying Zippo death trap. It has nice guns and nice turning ability.

Lacks in:
-Altitude abilities
-Slow acceleration to speeds above 250
-Nice Bombload that keeps MAX speed down to 250
-Compresses easily
-relatively high amounts of ammo weigh the nose down
-MAX speed with W.E.P will not pass 310 at any altitude

Offline Soda

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1543
      • http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/models.htm
Ki-61
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2003, 01:47:14 PM »
Oldman:
Quote
The Tony has a fairly narrow maneuvering speed range, generally anywhere in the 200s. Faster, and you start to compress; slower, and it doesn't turn well.


Exactly my experience.

Keep it over 200mph and you are good, nice direct handling, good stability, great roll rate.  Under 200mph, well, you feel like you are wallowing a bit and the turn rate is unimpressive.

E-retention seems good, probably better than average, though any lost E is tough to replace as the speed, acceleration and climb are all poor.

Firepower is good, nice placement of guns with decent ammo load (putting the cannons in the cowl is excellent) but the ballistics take a little while to catch on to.

Overall,  it makes for a decent package, not outstanding, but probably a little under-rated for how often you see them (rarely).

-Soda
Aces High Trainer Corps
The Assassins.

Offline HanaG

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 69
      • http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~hana-g
Ki-61
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2003, 09:57:10 PM »
WW2 era IJA pilots called ki-61 'Tyu-sen'.

'Kei-sen' is 'light ~trun & brun~ fighter'...Type1, Type97,....
'Jyu-sen' is 'Heavy ~Zoom&dive~ fighter'...Type2, Type4, IJN J2M,...

'Tyu-sen' is 'Middle ~both~ fighter' :D