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Offline NUKE

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« on: May 31, 2003, 12:25:23 AM »
Is there any other band that compairs? Not many great bands have even a fraction of the great songs the Beatles have written and performed.

 Just a small list of some classics ( no particlular order):

Hey Jude
Revolution
Ticket to Ride
Help
We can work it out
Eleanore Rigby
I'm Looking Through You
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Eight Days  A Week
Can't Buy Me Love
A Hard Day's Night
Norwegian Wood
In My Life
Yesterday
I Feel Fine
Taxman
Strawberry Fields Forever
Across The Universe
Come Together
Get Back
Something

Some others, some of my Favs:

I Am the Walrus
Revolution 1
A Day in The Life
Sgt Peppers / A little Help From My Friends
She Said She Said
Tomorrow Never Knows
Happiness Is a Warm Gun
Dear Prudence
I'm so Tired
Rain
Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my Monkey
Let It Be.................




Can any other band claim to have better songwriting and/or vocals than the Beatles?
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2003, 01:05:31 AM »
nuke you are correct.. Their record sales and popularity and influence speak for themselves.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2003, 01:06:49 AM »
Men at Work was much better.


"We Come From a Land Down Under"

"Who Can it Be Now?"

and I'm sure they had many other great hits too.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2003, 01:13:18 AM »
"Can any other band claim to have better songwriting and/or vocals than the Beatles?"

Context has so much to do with it. Many of those songs, if put side by side with so many contemporary songs, would be found to be somewhat (what's the word?) quaint? Among other not so favourable adjectives. Fact is - if a young up 'n comer dumped even 'Hey Jude' ("don't make it bad, take a sad song, and make it better" - see?) on the desk of some A&R guy today, it wouldn't make it any further than the A&R guy's desk.

You can't argue that the Beatle's weren't extremely talented, but it's next to impossible to do a comparison like the one you're trying do. The actual structure of a great many of their songs is quite basic... but, for example, nobody had ever done such and such a thing before... which in turn makes them "brilliant". It's hard to leave out the phrase "for the time" and it's next to impossible to pretend that the songs aren't by now so steeped in nostalgia, that you could almost say you aren't even hearing the Beatle's songs anymore - you're just hearing the Beatles.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2003, 01:44:50 AM »
I don't know about how simple they are:  

Most of the stuff coming out now you can fake with a standard three chord progression. Many Beatles songs have quite complicated, musically advanced chord patterns. Not just a standard three chord progression, but a bunch of augmented 9ths and diminished chords and such.

Learning some Beatles can help your guitar knowledge.

At one time, 'Yesterday' was the most covered song.  I imagine it may still be.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2003, 02:02:06 AM »
I don't know if it's nostalgia, I was borned in 1974, so when I got to hear their songs they were pretty much gone. The thing with the Beatles it's that I find almost all of their songs good or interesting in some way. They did a lot of different stuff, from pretty easy and basic to weird and complicated, and always delivered. Pure rock&roll, awesome ballads, light songs, inklings of "electronica", embrionary "heavy", harrison's indian stuff...

Of course, being so popular counts too, still today their songs get played so much, that have become something like the sountrack of our lives.

PS. Nuke, you shouldn't like them! they were a bunch of filthy hippies! ;)
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2003, 02:33:12 AM »
Imo, what made the Beatles great was their harmonics when they sang together.  I used to love the Beatles back when.  But, there is so much great music nowadays, and so much to chose from.  

But yeah, gotta admit, for their time, The Beatles were a great influence on many young people.   I don't mean great in the sense of good either.  There probably would have never been hippies if it weren't for the Beatles.

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2003, 03:36:58 AM »
No other band has influenced society more than The Beatles. John Lennon was the driving force behind them, altho Paul is usually regarded as the leader. But, when you compare post Beatles songs, Lennon clearly had more emotion and meaning in his lyrics.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2003, 08:48:23 AM »
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Fact is - if a young up 'n comer dumped even 'Hey Jude' ("don't make it bad, take a sad song, and make it better" - see?) on the desk of some A&R guy today, it wouldn't make it any further than the A&R guy's desk.


if someone dumped the original demo of McCartney singing Hey Jude on the desk of an A&R guy, he'd be signed instantly.

That song is a masterpeice. It's structure, it's momentum, it's vocals.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2003, 09:41:30 AM »
Can any other band claim to have better songwriting and/or vocals than the Beatles?


depends on who you ask...if your talking about from that era and class of music have to say "the who" were better...


sure the beatles had more influence but it the end the only thing that matters with making a band is marketing...why do you think the beach boys ended up relativley big when they wern't even playing there own songs???
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2003, 11:41:28 AM »
What about Led Leppelin?

they didnt have tha same "commercial" success but have changed music more IMHO.

just my short and quick 2¢


Ps. isnt the "All-time" sales list: Beatles, Zeppelin, Garth brooks in order 1,2,3?
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2003, 01:43:53 PM »
Nuke you ever read the lyrics to Imagine?

One of the most commie songs ever written.  Surprised you like it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2003, 01:49:00 PM »
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Nuke you ever read the lyrics to Imagine?

One of the most commie songs ever written.  Surprised you like it.


Where did I mention I liked Imagine? And I was talking about the Beatles as a group......didn't mention any of their solo work, which Imagine is.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2003, 02:53:36 PM »
Pink Floyd.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2003, 10:05:28 PM »
Just a bunch of Monkees knock offs.
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