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Offline bustr

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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2003, 02:35:17 PM »
Guess I should keep my intake shut then...I kill really good in the Arena...its just I wish I could kill good more of them than I get me killed really good.:D
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2003, 03:03:59 PM »
After stumbling around myself and irritating many with the obvious dumb dhouhh questions, there could be a getting started fast A-B-C sheet for the newbiee that can clicked on from the clip  board. The simple but basics to get off the ground and going.

E - Start engine
G - Raise gear
/ - ask questions in flight.
P - go a little faster.
enter enter - go really faster again after hearing answer to silly irritating question:D
/ - ask more silly irritating questions.
F10 - save good custom views recommended during silly irritating questions to shane;)
/ - ask even more silly irritating questions.
W-W-W-W - secret technique to call attention from other newbies and interested cons to your location.:)
/ - ask more really silly irritating questions.
enter enter - O - Lesson in maybe now you have the time to read the manual while hanging around.:rolleyes:

How's this for a quick sheet format?????
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2003, 07:44:33 PM »
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don't take acm tips from anyone who can't kill in the arena.
lazs


oops... sorry  =ox

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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2003, 03:45:12 PM »
what

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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2003, 09:31:03 PM »
I can never get anyone off my six yet I see it done all the time. I've been a victim of numerous reversals of advantage after having someone and then letting them get behind me somehow. So how do I get past this sticking point?

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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2003, 03:52:53 AM »
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I can never get anyone off my six yet I see it done all the time. I've been a victim of numerous reversals of advantage after having someone and then letting them get behind me somehow. So how do I get past this sticking point?


1. Get used to flying one plane and learn it's good points.

2. Start with the P51D - http://www.casquadron.com/ACM/

3. Learn who you can out turn and who you can out run.

4. Remember that yr opponent has as much difficulty following you as you have.

5. Don't fly alone.

6. Tracking deflection shots are difficult - when breaking don't do so horizontally either climb slightly or dive slightly on the break - more importantly don't keep the same vector once he's lost sight.

7. Split S - look it up.

8. Make sure you have enough alt to SPlit S.

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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2003, 02:53:51 PM »
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I can never get anyone off my six yet I see it done all the time. I've been a victim of numerous reversals of advantage after having someone and then letting them get behind me somehow. So how do I get past this sticking point?


Do something the other guy can't follow.

Try to get your aircraft into a different plane than his, not an airplane type plane, but a flat surface type plane defined by the attitude of your wings. Then make a vertical move. He won't be able to follow until he rolls into the same plane as you.

If he's moving faster than you, use it against him by trying to force him to overshoot. Swerving back and forth or a barrel roll (corkscrew type maneuver) are a couple ways. But try not to give away your Energy by slowing down... you may need it after he passes. (Cutting your engine, dropping your flaps, and lowering your gear are not really a good idea.)

Try getting him into a lag situation, like rolling and pulling down into a split S or yo-yo. As in the first case, he can't follow until he has rolled into the same plane (see above) as you.

The above are all variations of the same thing, getting your aircraft out of plane so you can make a move he can't follow. Another method is use the performance differences of the two aircraft.

If you have a faster aircraft, you may be able to outrun him by going into a dive (like a zero gravity dive where you are pulling 0 Gs... would be like a dive that would make you weightless). This allows you to accelerate fast as there is less drag.

If the other plane has a tendancy to compress at high speeds, use that against him by going into a steep dive, roll 90 degrees or more and pull out. He may compress and be unable to follow.

If your plane climbs better, you can try to outclimb him. If he is close, do a spiral climb by turning as you climb so he has a hard time to get his guns to bear on you. If he isn't too close, you may be able to zoom straight up until he stalls, and then reverse down to clobber him... rope-a-dope (danger Will Robinson, you better know you can outclimb him).

If your plane turns better, or he is going too fast to turn as sharp as you, do a break turn. Drop your nose as you turn, especially if you are slow. If he tries to follow, the gain in speed works against him.

Another method could be called stealth I guess. Try to confuse him and get out of his view. Like by getting below his nose, he can't see you for a moment. Then do something to get out of plane with him (see above). He won't see that you have rolled your aircraft and not adjust for it. If you're lucky, he will lose sight on you completely, making it possible for you to saddle up on him. The closer he is when you do this, the better it works. (This is one I don't do so much as get it done to me).

Don't give him any straight on shots from behind you. If you are moving at an angle to him, he must overcompensate to get a lead shot on you (like leading a duck with a shotgun). If this angle is to the side or down, you are beneath his nose and out of sight.

Some things planes don't do very good, and to maintain pursuit, the guy behind you has to do it more than you. One interesting possibility is pushing forward on the stick. We know planes don't like this much, you red out very quickly, and the faster you are going, the quicker you lose your sight. Your pursuer will probably be faster (otherwise you can just fly away) and he will have to do the maneuver more than you to stay in pursuit, because he is in a lag situation (the less expected the move, the greater the lag). Being able to see is also something more important to him than you. So what the heck, try it, and then do an out of plane move in case he followed and can't see, or rolled and is pointing the wrong way. (I use this to avoid head ons, but you may be able to get it to work when pursued .)

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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2003, 12:17:41 AM »
Nice replies. Now I have something to think about while playing.

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« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2003, 01:00:55 PM »
Firing over the nose at a target you're pulling lead on in a hard turn can be difficult to learn. If in a sustained turn behind your target, drop below the plane of his circle slightly.  This puts the target above and to the side of your nose where you can see him and gives you a bit more energy.  Once you've pulled lead on him and are ready to fire, a quick burst will show you how much deflection you've got.  If the bullets appear to pass just below him him, fire a longer burst as you rudder back into plane with him.  You'll loose sight of him as he drops back behind your nose, but you'll likely walk the bullet stream right into him.  Rudder back the opposite way to check results and regain the angles you'll loose when you walked the bullets into him (if he's still alive).  Practice this off-line with the drones.
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« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2003, 02:34:35 PM »
Speed is life...........Altitude is insurance.

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« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2003, 03:34:24 PM »
What an understatement....go to the DA.

Shane, Drex, WldThing and Urchin have all given their time to me in the DA. I used to fly from only an advantage and on my terms, yet I lacked(and sadly to some extent still do) the skills to handle a good pilot in a 1v1. Getting kills is easy, earning them is an entirely different gig.

Thanks to their help, the light finally came on the other night and I saw some improvement. This from a guy who has been flying these silly sims online for 10 years:)

The DA is where you will accelerate the learning curve...just remember, Shane likes to talk some smack, but is a good guy:)

The MA is the place to get your SA on....learn to be aware of where the field or fight is relevant to incoming bandits from another field, where or if you have help from other countrymen and finally a heading for egress if you screw up and get ina fix. Check your views often.

Keep your E if at all possible and knife fight only if you have some distance from other bandits(that is if you care about survival). Be agressive....this along with good SA will bring some big grins.

Choose your own flying style which yeilds enjoyment for you...ignore those who tell you how your supposed to fly, unless of course, they are paying your bill.

The AH community can be a strange place, still, this community if full of good people who will help you if they can.

Good thread Rod:)

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« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2003, 11:59:42 PM »
recently someone reading this thread sent an email stating that their films were on most-wanted.org and they were not recognized for them. You requested that you either get credit, or linked, or removed.

only PD films are allowed on Most-wanted.org. since our site gets 35 thousand hits per month, I would highly recommend you do 1 one the following:

release your films to PD and enjoy 35,000 potiential hits through the link from our site

or

email doody@most-wanted.org and tell him what films you are talking about so they can be removed
 
or

2: make a nice looking logo, or some identifying banner (64X64-128X96) so your films can be identified.

-=because your films are not PD, YOUR banner WILL NOT be linked. =-

I would be happy to correct this oversite and remove your films if u can identify them for me.

p.s.

Someone shoot down rod for me.

 rod
« Last Edit: June 25, 2003, 12:12:17 AM by MwDOODY »

Offline rod367th

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« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2003, 10:47:26 AM »
punt sktrhwk

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« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2003, 07:29:45 PM »
punt

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« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2003, 02:40:44 AM »
Check your six constantly.
Avoid getting tunnel vision.
Get to know the strengths/weaknesses of the planes you fly/fly against.

PRACTICE

Dont do the same maneuvers repetedly. Improvise. Doesnt allways work, but can catch the enemy by surprise.