Author Topic: Bogus 6 calls. (Read 568 times)

Apache · « **on:** November 26, 2001, 06:59:00 AM »

Come on. Using the check 6 call to pull me off a con so you can get in?

That don't work. First, I don't usually engage without knowing the situation. SA I believe it's called. Secondly, unless it's someone I've been flying with for the past 2 or more years, I don't pay attention to it anyway.

Find another way or maybe learn some BCM and get there first?

For the naysayers. Yep, happened on several occassions. Yes, newbies. Yes, they could be having trouble with aircraft position. No, I didn't call them on it.

Joc · « **Reply #1 on:** November 26, 2001, 07:59:00 AM »

This has happened to me a lot,real sad,I ignore these little tits too,like you,unless its from somone I know.Quit doing it now.

Kieran · « **Reply #2 on:** November 26, 2001, 08:02:00 AM »

Well, I have done it to you unintentionally. I have it mapped to my Pro Throttle, and occasionally it doesn't cycle fast enough and the call goes to the wrong guy. Game name is Dolomyte.

Yes, I have had people do it to pull me off a con I have saddled- when I am sure that happens I leave the area and them to themselves.

K West · « **Reply #3 on:** November 26, 2001, 08:15:00 AM »

What Kieran said. And I always send off a quick "Sorry!" if I pass a "check 6" to someone I'd not intended too.

I've not had it happen to me yet. Probably should fly more

But if this is truly happening it would not surprise me. It was only a matter of time and the arrival of someone(s) desperate enough to have to use that type of shinanigan to get a kill.

Westy

Kweassa · « **Reply #4 on:** November 26, 2001, 09:09:00 AM »

Not everybody is skilled like you Apache

Some people choose to keep behind a bogey after quick-but-careful calculation. They know how much time they have to down their prey, and if the time is up, they break off and run promptly... but for the majority, judging if one is safe or not doesn't come so easy.. and at those situations I try to give out a check 6 call.

Really, giving a check 6 call when a bogey is within 1.5k range of you is not very useful for the untalented people like me

... and thus, I try to give most of my warnings a bit early.

I give a check 6 call, and a short explanation of the situation..(.. like "Spit 6 high, diving..." ).. and if he still chooses to fight despite danger, I just give it a shrug and go my way... no point trying to help a guy in trouble when he was fore-warned, and advised to break off to safety.

So, some of the calls you got might have been intended as a pure gesture

.. but still, giving out a fakey to go in for the kill yourself is one of the lamest things I can imagine in AH. Don't mind those dorks...

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2001, 10:22:00 AM »

I have a tendancy to give alot of 6 calls. I've noticed a few quirks and flaws to the system as a result.

Sometimes I'm not able to select the pilot that needs the call... the highlight will stick on another friendly and not leave him. That means the 6 call goes to the guy that is chasing the bandit about to engage the guy I intended to call 6 for. It happens.

I've also had situations where at distance 3.8k or so it looked like the enemy was behind the friendly, but closing to 3.7 showed that not to be the case... and a 6 call was mistakingly sent.

But I do believe what you say happens. In that case, Kweassa pretty much summed it up.

AKDejaVu

Raubvogel · « **Reply #6 on:** November 26, 2001, 10:28:00 AM »

Lately there have been so many planes in one area that it's tough to cycle thru them all to highlight the guy you want. I'm sure I've inadvertently given a few bogus check 6 calls. Personally, I'd rather get a bogus check 6 call than none at all.

Furious · « **Reply #7 on:** November 26, 2001, 10:51:00 AM »

Yup, I like the "check six" feature and send many in a furball, but sometimes the situation occurs where the wrong guy gets it or the intended is not in any danger.

If someone is in serious trouble, I will send two or more spaced 5-10 sec apart. Usually the vets will vv(cc) the six call and I can get on with avoiding death myself.

Many, many times I have lost position on a bogey or blown my SA to send the "check 6". To use it for any purpose other than to help your teammates is the ultimate in dweebery.

Perhaps those repeat offenders can be identified and we all can continually flood them with HiTech's lovely voice.

F.

FlyingDuckSittingSwan · « **Reply #8 on:** November 26, 2001, 10:59:00 AM »

Funny how there's no team play, nobody gives a damn about anyone else, yet people seem to have the habit of giving out "check 6" calls. Ok, please answer me honestly now. Is it to distract the person, or is it a habit watching someones arse?

Don · « **Reply #9 on:** November 26, 2001, 11:01:00 AM »

Apache:

I've gotten them when I am taking off; when I am saddled up on an nme and I can see 3 or 4 countrymen behind me and want me outta the way (sad but true) and I also have gotten them when an nme is coming toward me and not from behind me (This may be due to the way the countryman sees the nme a/c or the attitude of my a/c). By far, the worst is when a dweeb does it to get you out of the way

The only thing I have come to realize is that there is no substitute for my own SA.
Hehe, I cannot account for the explosions which occur behind me as I am saddled up on an nme

Perhaps they were victims of kill shooter

I wish I knew it if and when it happens though, would make me feel all warm inside

K West · « **Reply #10 on:** November 26, 2001, 11:07:00 AM »

Funny how there's no team play, nobody gives a damn about anyone else....

Come to think of it. Judging from the recent display of your sparkling personality here on the boards did it ever occur that perhaps the folks online didn't want to play with you (let you join in or watch out for you) for good reasons? Pretty hard to say why you seem to have been ignored and shunned when you won't give your online handle that you used. Maybe there is a reason behind that on your part. Me thinks there is.

I think a a handle to change to "Rudolph" would be apropo in light of the holiday season and how you weren't invited to play in the reindeer games with the rest. ;

Westy

[ 11-26-2001: Message edited by: O'Westy ]

Biggles · « **Reply #11 on:** November 26, 2001, 11:13:00 AM »

If I see some bugger on my side going in to steal my kill (I'm talking obvious: the enemy's wings are gone, he's belching death smoke, pieces are fluttering down, etc) then I'll give him a quick check 6 to make him think twice about being a total jerk. It's much quicker than typing "he's dead" and hoping it will be read. IMHO this is the only situation where a bogus 6 call is acceptable.

I never ever give a check 6 in order to make someone on my side peel off so that I can take a crack at the bogie. Once in while I'll give an accidental check 6, but I'm getting better at keeping this to a minimum. It seems that whatever icon is closest to the center of the screen is the one that will get the call, so I try to center it before sending.

MrLars · « **Reply #12 on:** November 26, 2001, 11:40:00 AM »

Accidental Check 6's happen, I try to appologise if I send out an inintended one. While in a PT I've used Check 6's to let a friendly, who's in a bad situation, know that I'm ready for a low pass over me so I can help out...this works both ways very well

Wardog · « **Reply #13 on:** November 26, 2001, 11:43:00 AM »

6 calls are an odd thing, if your not fast enough on the keyboard, you end up calling the wrong guys 6. Ive done this many times.

If im gona steal a kill, ill do it outright. Though its not actually stealing, more like fixation. See target, kill target.

Im sure that 90% of the 6 calls you get were not even intended for you.

Dog out.......

hazed- · « **Reply #14 on:** November 26, 2001, 11:48:00 AM »

same here lars, ive used chck 6 on people when IM in trouble

its a way of getting their attention when you have a bogey on yer bellybutton but its a rare event.

i use chk 6 for its intended purpose ie to let people know they are being attacked and yes I sometimes get it wrong but to be honest I prefer to get a mistaken chk 6 now and then than no chk 6 at all.