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Offline 214thCavalier

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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2003, 09:32:32 AM »
Yes your graphics card fan should be running all the time.

And no i dont have any problems alt tabbing in AH with XP Pro.
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Offline B17Skull12

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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2003, 10:11:00 AM »
i dont alt tab but instead i use alt esc, course i have windows ME os, but my parents have xp ill sometime use that and i never have problem alt tabbing.  Might be to little memory.
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Offline kevykev56

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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2003, 10:53:22 AM »
Dingbat any suggestions on how to fix it? Like I had mentioned it worked fine for me with this same setup, it was only after I reinstalled the windows xp "same disk and setup" that this started happening. If it is related to the IMHO is there a setting I can change to correct it? It really made me mad yesterday when I had hit a combo on my stick that caused an alt tab to occur "joystick setting problem I have now fixed" 25min into flight just prior to target. Wow I was mad when I couldnt get back into game. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again.

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Dingbat, Also on a side note kickin setup you have there how many FPS with it. I plan on building that exact system in Jan only with 2.8 best bang for buck right now.
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Offline DAVENRINO

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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2003, 01:02:19 PM »
I really don't know why some have this problem, but I really don't think it is XP related.  I don't kow what the problem is but here are some things it isn't.  I have had XP Home on my Guam box since it came out.  It was originally a 1.4 Tbird/Asus VIA mobo with a GF3 and WIN ME. It currently has an Asus Nforce mobo with XP 2100+/gig of Crucial 2100/GF4 4400 w 41.09/SB Live/XP Home SP1.

Both boxes have always been able to ALT/TAB, ESC/TAB, WIN KEY, or launch IE or OE from keybaord to desktop and return to the game with zero problems.

My only guess is that it is video driver or driver installation issue.
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Offline guttboy

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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2003, 01:41:34 PM »
Win XP pro....NO PROBS ALT TABBING


HOWEVER, when i had old direct x drivers and vid card drivers after a fresh install....I could have a "see thru" plane with crappy graphics after the alt tab.....

I attribute this to the DRIVERS...not the OS or the card...

just a thought
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Offline acetnt-2nd

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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2003, 03:55:47 PM »
I have XP Home and had a 9000pro ati card, I used to be able to alt tab out and back into the game without problems. I have since upgraded my video driver and directx a few times and have the problem now. Unfortunately I can't say exactly when it started for the first time.

Had to dump a 262 recently because of it. Wasn't pretty :-)


Acetnt

I currently have dirextx 9b and cat3.10
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2003, 05:29:19 PM »
This problem is more than likely a video driver related problem.  I have an ATI 8500 using the Cat 3.7 drivers in this system, and Alt-tab many, many times a day without any problems.

The problem is, if you use certain video drivers, then change them, the Windows registry may still have all the previous hacks from the last driver.
If you do not remove the old drivers before changing to newer drivers, then the newer drivers could be affected.
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Offline Easyscor

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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2003, 09:45:35 AM »
Skuzzy could this also be the problem with lost vox?  Old drivers in the registry?

Sorry about hijacking the thread.
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Offline Skuzzy

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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2003, 09:50:05 AM »
It could be Easycor.  Anything is possible.  I never really have any VOX problems, but then I am also very meticulous about my computer and keeping it cleaned up and not installing intrusive software on it.
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Offline maddog

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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2003, 09:34:31 AM »
Possible solution.....

I see your in England....

Dav is running in Hawaii without any problems...

Try going to Hawaii and see if it works there!

That's what I would do.....
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Offline SkyGnome

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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2003, 10:22:15 PM »
I did some stuff to try to fix my alt-tabbing problems given Scuzy's advice.

First note:  The problem is somewhat sporradic for me.  Sometimes if I start another app while I'm in windows, I'll go back fine.  Other times: no dice.  Also, I believe that I had the problem on my initial windows install - before installing any updated drivers.  Thus, I can't really put too much faith in the results.

This time around, I uninstalled my nvidia drivers, rebooted, and installed them (53.03).  Alt-tab works fine.

When I turn on fsaa, alt-tab is broken.  It appears I can turn on aniso and alt-tab works but Nvidia+AH+aniso=feces frame rate.

Now that alt-tab works (I hope permanently), it's a nuisance that the frame rate limiter isn't available at higher rates, as windows crawls with AH in the background even on a rather perky box, and the limits available are too slow when used with non-flickering refresh rates.  Even just a 150fps global cap would fix this for any newer machines.

 - SG
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2004, 09:34:15 PM »
OK ive never had this prob. if i did it was long ago!

I got a WD raptor and did a freash reinstall of Win  XP pro and every thing else .............
System in AMDxp 2500
ASUS A7N8X - Delux
9700 pro AIW  

Been running game for years w/O any prob..........

i installed AH1  and was gettin  the alt tab flickers.............said F-it

DLed and installed AH2 1.99,...........newest one
works fine!
 I didnt change a thing between either

I just dont understand all windows is upto date every driver is new and cool (ATI cat. 3.10)

same stuff i was using on old HD but its not working on this one for AH 1?????????????????????





*********fixed     refreash rate was the reason was at 85 should be at 100 ************
thats the missing link im sure of it!:aok
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Offline singh7

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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2004, 11:18:27 PM »
Ok - I had this problem. Then I installed new omega drivers for the radeon card I have - yet again (had uninstalled a prev version due to problems) and the problem went completely away.

The only other thing I did is to switch off a few services that I had running on my machine - have 27 running on xp home now before playing game - dont know if this fixed that annoying alt tab flicker.
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Offline RedDg

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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2004, 10:14:44 PM »
Thought I'd post this here because I too had the flickering graphics when I Alt-Tabbed out of AH.  It NEVER did that until I reinstalled XP.  I didn't change any hardware...and installed the same Radeon Cat 3.7 drivers I used before.

So here's what worked for me.  I have a Radeon 9700 Pro and an Asus A7N8X deluxe m/b (NForce 2 chipset).  I went to Nvidia's site and upgraded the m/b chipset software (not BIOS).  Then I completely uninstalled my video card drivers and reinstalled them.  Now it works like a champ and solved an issue in another game I play called Morrowind.  You never know, it might work for you too.
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Offline ChasR

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2004, 12:42:27 PM »
The problem is definately related to the video drivers.  I changed from Cat 3.10 to 4.2 and the problem cropped up.  On ATI cards, I think it relates to failure to uninstall all of the old drivers and the ATI control panel prior to updating.  I have two computers with ATI cards both doing the exact same thing.  I know I didn't uninstall the control panel and may have upgraded without a driver uninstall at some point in the past on each of them.
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