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Offline Lazerus

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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2003, 10:08:10 PM »
I agree on the perk tags. They should read SPIT, F4U, 190, and TEMP:D     Seriously though, the only perked fighters that should have a perk 'tag' are the 262 and the 163.

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2003, 12:19:04 AM »
I flew the f4u4  for a sortie tonight.. WOW!!
I'm talking WOW! What a plane.  IMHO it's better in the MA than the tempest.  It's a pony with FW like roll rate better climb, dive.
Man what a sweet ride!!

12 kills, no re-arm..


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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2003, 12:25:53 AM »
just be aware an la7 can catch u on the deck - barely... with both in wep.  no wep, it's a dead tie.


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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2003, 12:45:04 AM »
wow bud, didn't know it was that fast :)
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2003, 03:38:52 AM »
I agree. The F4U-4 is not an easy plane with which to get results, and control can be lost at very high speed. It's definitely not worth 70pp, and wasn't even worth the old price of 60pp.

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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2003, 06:38:54 AM »
I know this doesn't help my case, but the F4U-4 has a 2:1/3:1 kill ratio for the last several tours.

Good to see some motivated HOG pilots in AH.

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2003, 06:54:47 AM »
ive never seen f4u-4 go above 15 points
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2003, 04:37:46 PM »
Beetle quote: "The F4U-4 is not an easy plane with which to get results, and....."

Beetle, I disagree with you here.  IMHO it's a hybrid pony/D9. Fabulous flying traits, a real killer.  I only flew it one sortie I'll grant you... but as I posted.. 12 kills, no re-arm, easily.
Your response might be something like:  "That's one sortie Steve, could be a fluke."
You're right there sir(assuming you thought that, lol).  I'll fly say.. a total of 10 sorties and re-adress this.  I promise to change my tune if my  findings coincide with yours.


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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2003, 04:54:11 PM »
Yeah! Unperk the F4U-4 so they stop to run away from my c.202 in fear of loosing perks to the crappy yellow spagetti plane, which I love to fly so much! Right Rauml? :D

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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2003, 05:37:17 PM »
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ive never seen f4u-4 go above 15 points


You're either a Rook, or you're thinking of the F4U-C. Maybe both.

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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2003, 10:37:04 PM »
The F4U-4 is slower than the 109G-10 at all alts except on the deck.  It's slower than the P51-D  and FW190-D9 between 2k-14k (where most of the fighting takes place).  It's slower than the La7 below 7.5k.

The 109G-10 substantially outclimbs it at all alts.  The FW190D-9 outclimbs it to 16k.  The La7 outclimbs it to 8k.  The P-38 outclimbs it from 1k to 8k and if compared with a full jabo load the P-38 will out climb it at all alts pretty handily.

Don't get me wrong...the F4U-4 is a helluva plane.  Should it be perked? Maybe.  Should it be perked as high as it is? Heck no.  The performance doesn't warrant it.  It's an average turning plane with ground attack capabilities with good (not great) speed and good (not great) climb.

Check here for the comparison charts.
http://www.jannousiainen.net/online_sims/jg_4/index.htm

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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2003, 11:28:45 PM »
2nd sortie.  An LA7 suicided himself to get a shot at me, managed to one ping both my elevators, I crashed on landing attempt.

5 kills


Starting to realize just how irritating the perk icon is... how the hell can you tell  f4u-4 from f4u1-d at 6.0?

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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2003, 01:10:28 AM »
I fly the F4U-4 frequently. It's a very capable aircraft. I did some offline acceleration tests and it ranked up with the best.

I set up with every fighter taking off with 50% fuel, fuel burn set at .001. After taking off, I leveled off at 300 feet, adjusted throttle until speed was stable at 200 mph. I then went to full power with WEP (where available) and recorded the time needed to reach 300 mph. Results as follows rounded up to next second increment.

1) Tempest: 25 seconds
2) La-7: 26 seconds
3) Spitfire XIV: 28 seconds
4) (tie) F4U-4: 31 seconds
5) (tie) Bf 109G-10: 31 seconds
6) Fw 190D-9: 33 seconds
7) (tie) P-38L: 36 seconds
8) (tie) Yak-9U: 36 seconds
9) (tie) Typhoon: 36 seconds
10) P-51D: 37 seconds
11) Ta 152H: 41 seconds
12) F4U-1: 44 seconds
13) P-47D-30: 50 seconds
14) N1K2-J: 56 seconds
15) Ki-61: 82 seconds

Based upon this testing, the F4U-4 demonstrates the ability to hang with the fastest fighters in the game, especially low level and at medium speeds, where much of he combat takes place.

At high altitude the F4U-4 really shines. Yet, in my opinion, the best fighter in the game is the Spitfire XIV. It can out-climb, and out-turn the Tempest at any altitude. Up high, it's considerably faster as well. I tend to think that a Tempest driver's worst nightmare is to discover a Spit XIV above him.

Also, get rid of the perk tags for all perked fighters.

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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2003, 02:13:58 AM »
Leaving aside 262, I think I agree with Widewing.

SpitXIV is like a G-10 on steroids. Outclimbs anything, the vertical is absolutely awesome and, as an extra, propeller's rotation makes her better turner clockwise. This makes *really* difficult for any other fighter to follow.

I like a lot that plane, although I don't use it that much.

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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2003, 06:16:03 AM »
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Originally posted by AtmkRstr
You're either a Rook, or you're thinking of the F4U-C. Maybe both.


mm i think the signature shows who i fly for ;)

if u move to knights u get cheap planes all the time:D
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