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Offline LePaul

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Another 20% cut
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2003, 03:59:37 PM »
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Any company with a union probably deserves it.


True, very true.  UPS deserves it!

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2003, 04:06:41 PM »
The Boeing division I work for is non-union, and I'm glad.  Because it is non-union, and management wants to keep it that way, they try to treat us well.  We get a yearly incentive bonus for example, and flexibility to work a 5/40 work week or a 9/80 (every other Friday off, in otherwords).  We fall under Boeing Homeland Security and Services, so 9-11 affected us in just the opposite way as the commercial aircraft division.  Our office alone went from roughly 30 folks to over 120 in the year and a half I've worked here.  Obviously small potatoes compared to the 82,000 folks were Rip works.  I can only be thankful that I was in the right place and with the right skills to get hired on where I did.
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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2003, 10:34:03 PM »
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I know you say that with a sarcastic tone...however, when I hired in back in 1979, I *knew* that the wages I was earning was 50% higher than Joe Blow doing the same job at Kenworth next door at Boeing Field.  Our union was strong, they always strapped Boeing Management into a position that they could ask for anything they wanted..and they got it.  Common sense tells you that when the world became "competitive", that these jobs would be going overseas, or to states controlled by "Conservative Corporate-friendly States" that understand that keeping the big boy on the block happy with tax breaks will keep employment in the area.  

I cashed my paycheck like everyone else, but always commented on much we made compared to the outside..."it couldn't possibly go on like this, can it?"  Well, it did until Airbus became a competitor to McDonald Douglas, Boeing. By that time the damage was done by the Unions (Asking double the wage)  We were too expensive. Hire Contract labor.  Ship the work overseas.
WTG Mr.Union Man.


Rip,

The same thing happened in AZ in the early 70's. The minr\ers went on strike for more money. At the time the average base salary was over $17.00 for above ground miners. The company told them they were out of their minds to be asking for more wages when the avg non mining salary was about $8.00 for skilled labor at the time. The union went out on strike to force the mines to comply. The price of copper was falling at the time and the mines simply closed up as the new wages made it unprofitable to mine copper here. As a result the local miners really lost it all. The mines are STILL closed 30 years later. There is still caretaker employment fro them but no large scale mining. Some small scale stuff is going on but I think that is more to keep the EPA off of their backs more than anything else. If the operation is totally closed they'd have to restore the area back to pre mine condition and those are some BIG holes in the ground! :)
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Offline Tarmac

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Another 20% cut
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2003, 03:31:26 AM »
They cutting their interns?

Rip, if you meet an intern from MIT named Omar over the summer, he's off limits (no Clinton-esque hanky panky).  My sister's already got him claimed.  ;)
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