What do we need to do to reintroduce buff importance?

[Loyalist]

Lets face it, the only time the majority of us fly buffs now is if we're eating breakfast or dinner.

Something needs to be done to make them an important part of the game again.

[Nifty]

give bombs a bigger blast radius, then model bomb drift, introduce a realistic Norden sight.  basically make them buffs instead of fluffs (apologies to lazs).  

We fly fighters because we don't know how it's going to turn out.  I might get a great shot, but miss and get my arse handed to me.  In a buff, I know if I get over the target, it's going down.  I won't miss, not even on a CV unless it turns.  Where's the fun in that?  The challenge of the game is where the fun is, and only challenge in a buff is if you get caught looking through the bombsight.  

Make them fun, and people will fly them.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Loyalist:
Lets face it, the only time the majority of us fly buffs now is if we're eating breakfast or dinner.

Something needs to be done to make them an important part of the game again.

agreed with Nifty.... up the blast damage for larger munitions and make the sighting and bomb drift such as to force carpet bombing of targets.

Then make attrition of stations and cities really count. (destroying a station may really count now?)

Harden up towns so that one mossie cannot destroy it completely. Towns should be destroyed as a result of blanket bombing only.

Tilt

[Am0n]

All of this is great if you got 20 bombers hitting a target..
 
But these ideas are trying to get more buffs in the air so there could be effectivly 20 on one base if these ideas were implemented..


Hurmm "catch 22"!  

My brain hurts
 

[Keez]

I for one would love it to see more realism. To have to adjust to drift etc, it would finally make buffing more of a challenge. Finally there would be "good" and "less" bomberpilots, which could result in respect for buff pilots who put steel on target every flight  

Go buffs go! Teach em fighterjocks that they are the inferior class  

[SKurj]

When players learn the strat layer the importance of the buff may once again prevail.
Bombing cities, factories, depots etc is MORE important now than it ever was.
Notice how fast fields rebuild now without a supply goon? 10 minutes bang , the field is back up (so it seems)
The guys who always wanted this just haven't realized it yet.

We are all for instant gratification, and resistant to change...  porking field, capture field(the old way) served us fine, now there is much more in the background.

Pork the enemies strat and supply layer, pork the surrounding bases and depots then go for the grab.  No matter how many players are trying to defend that field, the methods outlined above will bring them down.

BTW pork the surrounding field's barracks and they CANNOT resupply using goons

SKurj

[GRUNHERZ]

Make field AI ack much tougher. The reason nobody bothers with buffs now is because the AI ack is so easily killed, then then its just vulching till the goon comes.

I can more or less deack a whole field now in a 109G10 using only the 2 13mm MGs and 300 rounds per gun. This is really silly and stupid.

[funkedup]

Model bombers realistically as far as defensive capability and bomb aiming.  But give each bomber 3 AI wingmen.  

[Olgzr3]

Even aradoes are not safe now... buffs in 1.08 are easy meat.

[whirl]

wow, your seriously lucky grunherz, or have such bad lag the ack can't track you.  i can't even make a single pass without getting nailed.  doesn't matter which tactic i use-always same result.

[Wotan]

ack is easy to kill go offline and practice.

I still see plenty of buffs. Heck they should be happy plenty of stuff to bomb now. Buffs were/are never necessary for field capture and most buff sorties were/are not flown in support of base capture.

Short of the tree deal at the begginning of 1.08 I figured you buff guys would be happy.

Field capture =jabo, cap, troops

strat(cities facilities train stations)=buffs

Buffs were always easy meat. Now buffs oughta have an easier time with targets all spread out. And you ackstars can still fly 5k over an nme base and when ya get killed ya can still whine "no organization, no cover, no check 6".

[FDisk]

the ack only hits me 100% of the time when i'm traveling over 300 mph.. my spit V easly avoid it... i think it's great.

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To get back to answering the question:

Make it so all ack needs to be destroyed (both field and city) and the
vehicle and fighter hangars must be destroyed to close the field.

There should also be a feature added to list field status (if they are open or closed)
Yeah i know you can get field status in the map room, but its dog slow.

[Wotan]

how does that answer the question?.......

all that can be done with jabos now.
 

buffs are only in important if those flying then know what needs to be hit go read skurjs reply.

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Originally posted by Wotan:
how does that answer the question?.......

Need to destroy hangars.
Destroy hangars with bombs from bombers

Is that simple enough for you?