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Offline hazed-

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« Reply #75 on: June 08, 2003, 04:37:59 PM »
well im sure once they all read this thread they'll stop flying like that and become pilots just like yourselves!

seriously though what is this going to achieve? It wont suddenly make people stop running or improve their ACM will it?

If you want to see less running why dont you all stop flying the late war models or get behind the request for more perking?

Simply complaining that people are doing things you dont like solves nothing.As far as im concerned anyone who flies LA7's who has already learned to fly and fight well are simply using it because they like to get loads of kills.They wont take on the challenge of flying a rarer aircraft like 205s or 109F4's etc.
Im not very impressed by a 3 year veteran flying the easiest aircraft in the game and to be honest i cant see what they get out of it.Its hardly challenging.If the majority of La7 flyers are newbies with a fear of fighting then Im playing a different game ;)

Ive seen more vets in p51ds and la7s lately than ever before. If the vets cant fly the old planes then why on earth should the newbies be the first to do it?

Urchin what do you fly most often?

and anyone who flies LA7's thats been in AH more than a year, why do you fly them?

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« Reply #76 on: June 08, 2003, 04:47:05 PM »
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LOL. I've tried it all...my stats still look the same  

Sorry, Batz, been a bit down on myself for not improving, and guess i took it wrong. I actually seem to be getting worse!
I get annoyed for letting someone shoot me down, then I do even worse, start pressing to get e kill no matter what....and die again, being stupid.

I have been there, chasing and being chased.

Ya know though, a possible point on this:
I tend to try flying where there are not so many of my countrymen, somewhere that is getting some small enemy attention, but not being nailed by endless hordes of jabos. This is another reason for low kills per hour. Must be true for others too, as I tend to see the same folks on the "edges".

I tend to want improved K/D for myself, than kills per hour, but that would be good too, heh.

BTW are those stats for current tour? didn't realize they were that bad.  actually kills / hour are up a bit! K/D is terrible.





It was my mistake I should have made it clearer. As long as you are having fun. After all its just a game. I just happen to agree with Urchin that an arena of timid and non-aggressive pilots would be and is boring unless there is something else to keep the fun level up. Like in events where planning etc are important. Some just want the "fight".

Some folks point to strat and field capture as that "something else" in the main but building battling to me is even more boring the chasing folks around. After all they might turn around, a building no matter how crafty or cunning just cant put up a good fight. :)

Also what folks are talking about is the "fight" not the kill. Some of the best fights I have been in are ones where I didnt live.


ccvi read what I said, or atleast look at the stats correctly. After all everyone know you inability to pop up a proper rebuttal. :rolleyes:

Urchin gets 12 kills per hour  and has a kd of about 4. I have seen his kd at 15. Kill per sortie at 2. All without running.

My averages (wotan) were a kd of 3 to 4 and a kill per hour of 5 to 8. There are many others who beat both.

A high kill per hour doesnt mean a lo kd or that you die every sortie. But so what if it does. As Urchin said this is a game and you dont really "die". As I pointed out those arguing against what Urchin said have kds below 1 and kills per hour around 2.

So before you question my stat reading abilities maybe you should work on your own. :p

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Even if you fly into buildings or even the ground most times another player gets kill credit anyhow. Stating players are afraid to die but kill themselves is contradiction large enough not to explain running.
Hint: The fun in this game comes from blowing stuff up, no matter if it's a2a, a2g or whatever. Therefore hitting buildings can be more fun than beeing shot down a2a.


Theres no contradiction if you follow the arguement that folks would rather die by ground they be killed  by a human in an out right fight. By flying into the ground they can rationalize the kill msg with " proxy kill". If they get whooped out right and end up being nothing more then a bullet catcher they havent "accomplished anything". Atleast by augering in they got "those pesky fuel tanks" and have "contributed", regardless of the kill msg.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2003, 04:49:51 PM by Batz »

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« Reply #77 on: June 08, 2003, 05:23:04 PM »
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Yeah ... you don't come to whine in the CT as much as you used to. Probably because I never pass up an opportunity to bust yer balls about it when you do. But, you needn't fear. There are others willing to take your place. :D


oh i'm there now, and you can't bust nothing exccept maybe a wet-fart.


i hear you're quite the whiner there too... as well as the CT forum.
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« Reply #78 on: June 08, 2003, 05:26:12 PM »
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oh i'm there now, and you can't bust nothing exccept maybe a wet-fart.

i hear you're quite the whiner there too... as well as the CT forum.


Well ... with your nose stuck in my skidmark stained shorts you prolly hear and smell alot more than most do. Ya whiner! :D

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« Reply #79 on: June 08, 2003, 05:29:47 PM »
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Simply complaining that people are doing things you dont like solves nothing.As far as im concerned anyone who flies LA7's who has already learned to fly and fight well are simply using it because they like to get loads of kills.They wont take on the challenge of flying a rarer aircraft like 205s or 109F4's etc.
Im not very impressed by a 3 year veteran flying the easiest aircraft in the game and to be honest i cant see what they get out of it.


well, yeah hazed, you know i'm capable of sending you back to tower in just about anything. :D

as to why i fly the la7, i'll type this once again, reaaaaaalll slow-like:

t..o..  c...h...a...s...e...  d...o...w...n... l...a...m...e... r...u...n...n...e...r...s... a...n...d... t...o... d...e...a...l... w...i...t...h... anklehumpingslobberdonkeyhord emonkeys!!!

if you have a problem with a tnb low and slow la7 on the deck in something, perhaps you need a little more TA time.

what about all the vets in spit5's? how come no one humps their ankles about it?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2003, 05:31:51 PM by Shane »
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« Reply #80 on: June 08, 2003, 05:33:24 PM »
Neh .... just the "vets" who cry all the damned time. Ya whiner! :D

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« Reply #81 on: June 08, 2003, 05:36:38 PM »
like it or not arlo, you're lumped into that category, as well.

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« Reply #82 on: June 08, 2003, 05:39:36 PM »
Only because you have Peewee Herman's brain. Ya whiner!

"I know you are but what am I?"

"It took a bazillion of ya. LOL Waaaaa!"

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« Reply #83 on: June 08, 2003, 05:45:18 PM »
He invents alot of things. :D

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« Reply #84 on: June 08, 2003, 06:08:51 PM »
batz is correct... the people defending the steamroller run awy style are awfull at the game.. thier style is not helping them a bit...They whould probly bite the bullet and learn how to fight rather than join "missuns" to fight over scraps or hide under their bunks.

I really get a little tired of the same guys telling me that I don't know how to find a fight when they get like 2 or 3 kills an hour and then claim that they "allways find a fight" when they want to... obviously... they have never wanted to find a fight or.. they wouldn't know a fight if it bit em on the butt.

I have tried to fly ever fighter this tour until I land a kill... I want to keep over a 6 kill per hour or so doing it and never go above 6k agl..  hard on the pizza map were every flight is a long flight to nowhere but I am up to the S's after about 6 hours or so of flying.

urchin flew the f6 and the p40e the night I was with him.  we flew p40's and the good part was.... we attracted a bunch of these brave B&Z ers guess it was a coincidnece that they went after us huh?  guess it was just bad luck that I got 2 and he got 4?

you won't get good hiding under the bunk or participating in gangbangs or running away... it is that simple.
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« Reply #85 on: June 08, 2003, 06:15:56 PM »
Whining helps too, I hear. No really. It makes everyone ashamed to have fun the way they want and, if nothing else, soothes the nerves. :D

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« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2003, 06:26:24 PM »
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If you want to see less running why dont you all stop flying the late war models or get behind the request for more perking?

 



Why is it always someone tries to some how introduce perking into an arguement that it has really nothing to do with it in the first place?

Perking planes won't solve anything because the plane isn't the problem, it's the person that flies that plane that is.  People that don't fight or are too timid to fight aggressively will do it any plane because that's the only thing they know how to do.  If you were to give them some training and teach them new ACM maneuver and tactics, that will go a long way in breaking the cycle.  Calling for perking of certain planes is just a weak man's solution and doesn't do a thing to help the problem.


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« Reply #87 on: June 08, 2003, 06:29:51 PM »
actually arlo... as has been pointed out... your opinion is kinda worthless on the subject of how to play AH since you don't play.  try playing it and then form an opinion.

but.. for the record... I am not so much complaining about how people play as how we are all forced to play by the setup we have..  fix the field distance and some of the gamier jabo/bomb issues and give people a choice of gameplay.
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« Reply #88 on: June 08, 2003, 06:35:30 PM »
What a bunch of ****in idiots

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« Reply #89 on: June 08, 2003, 06:35:51 PM »
Gawrsh, Mistuh Lazzie .... how many hours does ah gots ta play this heyar game befo' I be playin' this heyar game?

"No use whinin' bout it. No complaints."

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