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Offline Beans101

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« on: June 09, 2003, 12:21:17 AM »
In my humble oppinion, the P-61 Black Widow would b an excellent Perk Fighter/Bomber.  Since we dont really have a Perkie Fighter/Bomber we obviously need one that everyone will use (so we can get rid of all those stinkin Bomber Perks we never use).

     Second, add the P51-C (someone please correct me if im wrong) with the 4 20mm Hispano Cannons as a perk Fighter!!  The P51 is an excellent plane as it stands, but adding the Cannons would REALLY increase the use of the plane, especially by me :)!!

     Third, last but not least, an additional Perk Bomber SHOULD b a B29 Superfortress.  Fast, sleak, great defensive weapons and a great bomb load!!  I dont c why we havent had it in AH yet.  No disrespect to all AH Staff.

     FOR EVERYONE ELSE = Add a comment or two about your favorite plane you would like to see in the next Version of
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2003, 12:55:58 AM »
Do-335 and the J7W Shinden

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2003, 02:32:38 AM »
The P-61 is not a bomber, it's a Night fighter, I think for somthing to be considered a bomber it's neads to have a bombsight.

 I thought the Hispano armed P51's dident actualy see service?

 I want all the planes from WW2 that have yet to be modeled in AH added.:)

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2003, 03:19:23 AM »
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The P-61 is not a bomber, it's a Night fighter, I think for somthing to be considered a bomber it's neads to have a bombsight.

 I thought the Hispano armed P51's dident actualy see service?

 I want all the planes from WW2 that have yet to be modeled in AH added.:)


Didn't one of the early RAF Mustangs, the Mk IIa, carry twin 20mm cannons?


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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2003, 03:20:49 AM »
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In my humble oppinion, the P-61 Black Widow would b an excellent Perk Bomber.  



Since night time isn't really modeled in AH and there is no modeled airborne radar, the P-61 would be kind of useless.


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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2003, 04:23:01 AM »
Do335: Great performance, fast, agile, can carry a decent lod of bombs and looks freaking great.

Me410: Because it's so extremely cool looking and can carry alot of different weapons.

He219: Night fighter with alot of aramament, shot down 5 bombers on its first sortie and was also the firtst plane to shoot down a mosquito at night.

Fw 190 A9 and F9 just because! :)
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2003, 07:50:54 AM »
Cannon armed Mustang was the Mk.Ia, and the P-61 was a nightfighter!

Need bomber mossies! 4k bombload, 400+ mph

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Re: PLANES U WOULD LIKE TO C IN AHII
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2003, 09:52:46 AM »
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FOR EVERYONE ELSE = Add a comment or two about your favorite plane you would like to see in the next Version of
ACES HIGH, maybe just maybe, if we wish hard enuf, we will get what we ask for!! ;)


Gloster Gladiator
Fiat Cr32 and 42
Sm 79
SM 81
Ju52
Do17
Heinkel 111
Ki-27 Nate
Ki-21 Sally
G4M Betty
Bristol Blenheim
Wellington
Maryland/Baltimore
He 115
Lagg-3
MiGG-3
Il-4
Polikarpov I-16
I-153
Bf109 Spanish War variants
Brewster Buffalo
Dewoitine D.520

With the above planeset you could flesh out an early war arena rather nicely.  You'd have about all types needed to get started given that we already have SBDs, F4Fs, Stukas, Vals, A6m2s, etc.

Hk8 Emily
Sunderland
P-39
Ki-43
Ki-45
Ki-84
Variations of the P-38, such as the G
B-25
B-24
Pe-2
Do-217
Cant 1007 Alcione

These planes saw far too much use/had too great an impact or role in their air forces not to be modeled.  Note that for the Sunderland and Emily, these fill the "flying boat/floatplane" needs for axis and allies.  Not that I wouldn't take the Catalinas, Herones, etc., just that these two would go a long way towards filling out flying boat needs/uses if not doing so completely.  I'd like to see a great many others, and sure vehicle sets would be nice, but let's have more planes first--great planes, the ones that fought the early war when the issue was being decided, not the models that were simply mass fodder to be thrown into each meat grinder.

I see people are also asking for more ships.  The Shipping thing needs to be rethought completely, but for now let's have more airplanes.  


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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2003, 10:16:31 AM »
He-111 (for the love of god)
109K4
109G14
190A4
Yak3
Some MiG's
Ki-84
B29
B25H
Clipped wing Spit (VB?)
LaGG-3

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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2003, 10:38:46 AM »
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The P-61 is not a bomber, it's a Night fighter, I think for somthing to be considered a bomber it's neads to have a bombsight.

 I thought the Hispano armed P51's dident actualy see service?

 I want all the planes from WW2 that have yet to be modeled in AH added.:)


Ummm Brady,, the A20 is a bomber and it does not have a bombsight.

THe P-61 was capable of performing the function of bomber as it did do it on a regular basis over in Asia I believe.  Could carry up to 4000lbs.  Original post by...beans should of said perk fighter/bomber would of been more appropriate.

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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2003, 12:32:20 PM »
Bf109 G-14
Bf110 G-4
He177 A-5
Ju87 G-1
Ju88 G-1
Me410 A-1

B-24J
Beaufighter TF.Mk X
Halifax B.Mk III
Mosquito B.Mk XVI
SB2C-3
Yak-9D
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2003, 12:38:44 PM »
Thank you Gorf for not making me feel like a DUMB ARSE like Ack-Ack or Brady.  I have Corrected the Bomber thing to Fighter/Bomber, which is what i meant.  And yes u r right again Gorf, the P-61 did play a role in Bomber missions, and yes it could carry 4000lbs in ord. not to mention its 4 20mm FF Cannons, as well as its Top Turret w/4 50cals.  

     Brady, when u leave a post arguing about something, please know what the hell u r talking about first before u make the comment.:D  Not to mention, as Gorf said as well, several designated BOMBERS in the war didnt have bomb sights!!  Sorry Brady, U Lose this one man.  

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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2003, 12:50:26 PM »
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I thought the Hispano armed P51's dident actualy see service?

     Sorry Brady if i have confused u, but i asked anyone to correct me if i was wrong.  It obviously seems like u dont know what in the hell u r talking about seeing as how u have a ? at the end of your so called statement.  Brady, im not trying to get on ur case, just next time, try to b a little nicer when responding to a post, K!!

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2003, 01:41:46 PM »
The P61 was not a Bomber, but as you mentioned a Heavy fighter capable of carying Bomb's.

 The A20G was originaly designed as a bomber with a sight and later was adapted to the atack role whear the bombader position was elimanated, so in this guise it is not realy a bomber per say.

 Yes, it is  still a question on the Hispano armed P51's I know some were made but I remember reading some whear that they werent used operationaly or saw little service, I cant remember exactly that's why I asked a question.

 I am sry if my statement's/ question rubed you raw, it certainly was not my intent to do so.

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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2003, 05:23:56 PM »
UNITED STATES

DOUGLAS A-26C
Consolidated B-24D
North American B-25B
Boeing B-29
Northrop P-61C

North American A-36A
NORTH AMERICAN F-82B