No WMD, was war worth it?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Arfann
And our aggressive military actions will make it much easier for the baddies to acquire financing, even from those regimes we hadn't pissed off/on before.

Got facts and data supporting that opinion? Or is it just another worthless lefty opinion? (ie: Mostly rhetoric, no substance)

[ra]

Originally posted by Arfann
So what's the next step, Missionaries with military back-up? Gotta get 'em ta believe our book, not their book, cause our book's the right book, right? Nuttin like a little para-assault proselityzin'.

And peace-niks wonder why they lost the debate on the war.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by ra
And peace-niks wonder why they lost the debate on the war.

LMAO!

[fffreeze220]

I wonder Nuke did not post a statement here  NUUUUKKEEEE. We need ur advise

[Creamo]

Originally posted by Lance
Creamo, I love ya, but on what do you base the belief that Iraq supported terrorists that target the U.S.?   Every such indicator has, when you get to its roots, come from a government or intelligence official/agency simply asserting it is so.  There have been no demonstrated money trails, wire taps recordings, videos/photographs of meetings between Iraqi officials (or their proxies) and Al Qaeda members (or their proxies), or any other hard evidence made available to the public.  Even Rip's article above is just a government agency making a claim without presenting any evidence to support it.  

These are the same government or intelligence officials/agencies that presented the WMD case.  And if we find out that some of these people didn't verify their intelligence, hyped shaky intelligence, or outright fabricated intelligence regarding WMD to help sell the war, how can we trust what they assured us was true regarding Iraq's ties to Al Qaeda?

Hey, I am not sure that we've been misled or lied to.  I hope we haven't been, otherwise the near future is going to be ugly for the country.  But given the circumstances, I don't think its wrong to start questioning what we've been told.

Iraq has poured millions of dollars into anti-American efforts. READ- Terrorism. Wake up Tardo.

You have been lied too Gordo, of course. Duh?! Could the United States achieve anything if it was debated in a San Francisco hairy armpit diesel dike rally? Please. And you’re not sure, but I am. I guess this puts a clairvoyant power upon me, to decipher the obvious? Come on.

Just tell me Iraq didn’t support terrorism, and can actually support it now, in any form, now  that they are going to have a oil production that enriches most of their peoples, eliminates their poverty, stops the imprisonment of political free thinkers, and makes the country a global trader. Minus a dictator.

When the Iraq High School Graduates  are happy and have a pot (to piss in- just in case that wasn’t a good lead-in), where’s the religion? They are going to volunteer for the Republican Guard? Where’s your religion  before someone actually dies Lance? You don’t think there is millions of 18 year old Iraqi’s that don’t want to do “Vodka Kamikazes” fuk, and have running water without political persecution, instead of fighting for the Republican Guard?

[Frogm4n]

man you guys are so easy to dupe. you have been lied to by your government and you dont seem to care at all. yes its good saddam is gone but what he did dosnt even come close to what people have been doing in africa yet we wont even think about going into there. we still havnt found bin ladden or saddam and because of the war in iraq . al queda is stronger. and new york is still waiting for 1 penny of that cash bush promised them.

there are more and more reports that they knew iraq didnt have anything. the thing that bothers me is the amount of lies that are comming out of the white house these days that we are not calling them on. We didnt seem to have any problem calling clinton on his. All the lies about france that were feed to the french, the wmd stuff( trailors that make hydrogen gass are not wmds), the money promised to new york, the tax cuts that supposed to benefit everyone, the connections with enron. the slime just keeps oozeing off these guys.

[Erlkonig]

Seems to me that Bush has a problem with what the definition of "is" is.  I mean, give me a break, those trailers "are" WMD???  Oh well, at least he didn't lie about anything quite as important as his sexual relations, right?

[Creamo]

Tax cuts are supposed to help working men and women struggling with families, not snot nosed little kids living and touring Europe with Mommy and Daddy after 17.

 You’re supposed to be making money and paying taxes Frog, not staying in the fold out bed at the hotel with your parents, contributing zero to the economy.

Bribe them for a car and apply for a job.

[GRUNHERZ]

Erl you are funny, so I guess to you its not illegal to have a secret meth lab if you are on probation for drug offenses...

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
man you guys are so easy to dupe. you have been lied to by your government and you dont seem to care at all. yes its good saddam is gone but what he did dosnt even come close to what people have been doing in africa yet we wont even think about going into there. we still havnt found bin ladden or saddam and because of the war in iraq . al queda is stronger. and new york is still waiting for 1 penny of that cash bush promised them.

there are more and more reports that they knew iraq didnt have anything. the thing that bothers me is the amount of lies that are comming out of the white house these days that we are not calling them on. We didnt seem to have any problem calling clinton on his. All the lies about france that were feed to the french, the wmd stuff( trailors that make hydrogen gass are not wmds), the money promised to new york, the tax cuts that supposed to benefit everyone, the connections with enron. the slime just keeps oozeing off these guys.

That "Why aren't we in Africa?" arguement is about as lame as they come.  Lied to? I think this Administration was given bad or possibly misleading information regarding WMD in Iraq by the CIA...but I may be proven wrong.  Will you still be here to admit you're wrong if they do find more than what they already have found regarding fabrication of such WMD???

Also, have any facts and data proving that Al Queda is stronger?  Please bring it to the table.

[Frogm4n]

ooo creamo is talking about things he has absolutely no idea so he needs to bring out the personal trash talk. if its ment to help the working people then why dosnt it give anything to people making under 30k a year, and not much of anything for people making under 60k a year. and why people that make 200k+ a year get thousands back and billionares get millions back. its a lie.


im in college traveling europe with my friends i have no shame.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Frogm4n

im in college traveling europe with my friends i have no shame.

Aha!~ Now we know why you've no common sense!

[AWMac]

I love it when Frogm4n posts... it gives me something....








TO POOP ON !

[Mini D]

LOL Froggy!  I do believe you have no idea just how much money people do/don't pay in taxes and even less comprehension on just how much they do/don't get back.  So keep sucking on mama's tit and pretending it doesn't make you ignorant.  Its funny to watch and only makes me want you more.  Another year or two of this and you'll be as dumb and sexy as Animal.

MiniD

[Lance]

Awww, snookums, don't be mad!  All I did was ask you a question.  Which you still didn't answer.  You just regurgitated the sales pitch.  I don't blame you, it does not sit well with my stomache either.