Author Topic: PacFighter vs EuroFighter Question... (Read 594 times)

Khnemu · « **on:** June 11, 2003, 07:29:13 AM »

I have been listening in game as reading here on the BB about the variety of issues of fighters vs fighter plane sets.

It occurs to me that Euro fighters vs Pac fighters were built differently, handled differently etc.

An F6, F4u etc well do much better vs same or against the zeke or other jap planes than against 109s, Fws etc...

I think what i am trying to point out is when in Dogfighting situations try to go against a enemy more suited to type of plane you are flying.

La7s for ex. were built specificaly to combat 109s and fws i believe.

Anyone understand what i am getting at?

Would like to see input of everyones opinion.

Dont think i've had enough coffee for my brain to be intelligently speak this early lol:rolleyes:

gofaster · « **Reply #1 on:** June 11, 2003, 08:15:36 AM »

You are correct.

The LA7 and Yak9 were intended for combat against 109s and 190s, much like the Spitfire and Hurricane were.

The US Navy planes were intended to be A6M beaters.

The 109G10 and FW190A8 were intended to be used against big bomber formations.

Which is why the A6Ms had so much trouble against B-17s - the A6Ms were designed for dogfighting, not bomber intercepts. Same with the F and G2 109s - they were designed for dogfighting and lacked the firepower to bring down the big bombers.

In the MA, I've found that the P51B and Yak9U can usually defeat a US Navy plane. Historically, they never would've fought against each other, but in the MA it makes for a quick fight.

Mathman · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2003, 10:13:06 AM »

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Originally posted by gofaster
In the MA, I've found that the P51B and Yak9U can usually defeat a US Navy plane. Historically, they never would've fought against each other, but in the MA it makes for a quick fight.

If you say so.

ramzey · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2003, 10:31:40 AM »

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Originally posted by gofaster
In the MA, I've found that the P51B and Yak9U can usually defeat a US Navy plane. Historically, they never would've fought against each other, but in the MA it makes for a quick fight.

except this "couple" friendly fire incydents over czech and germany. And of cours Korean war

so rps and cut MA to pices? I dont think so its something what player like. A MMOG more people = better funn. Better fly CT

ramzey

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2003, 11:17:08 AM »

The RAF flew F-4u's against the Luffwabbles.. Not sure how well they did but it was done.

Soulyss · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2003, 11:30:22 AM »

They also flew F4F's and F6F's. Air to Air claims were relatively minor.

rshubert · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2003, 11:45:19 AM »

While the F6F was designed specifically to fight the Zeke, the F4U was actually a pre-war design. Not only were the Navy planes set up for different enemies, but they were designed to take the stress of carrier landings. That added weight. Overwater nav gear added more. Folding wings and tail hooks added more. longer range radios added more.

It surprises me how well F4Us do in the ma, against all them turn-fighters.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #7 on:** June 11, 2003, 12:29:08 PM »

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Originally posted by gofaster
bombers.

In the MA, I've found that the P51B and Yak9U can usually defeat a US Navy plane.

I imagine that a lot of that depends on the respective pilot's abilities.

Ack-Ack

gofaster · « **Reply #8 on:** June 11, 2003, 12:47:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I imagine that a lot of that depends on the respective pilot's abilities.

Ack-Ack

Probably, but I've never had any trouble knocking them down. Then again, that's probably because the only time I really see a USN plane is when its heavy with rockets and bombs. I think I'm something like 9 kills/5 deaths to the Navy planes this tour. I remember shooting several down while flying a clown-tailed Ki-61 fighter.

slimm50 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 11, 2003, 12:58:14 PM »

KHNEMU, do you still play Ultima Online? If so, who are some of your characters in there, and when are you most likely to be on? I am currently pretty active on there. Main character is a mage named Soreth.

Sorry to all of the rest of you, didn't mean to highjack this thread.

Steve · « **Reply #10 on:** June 11, 2003, 02:10:27 PM »

If you're still active, I have a nice big house on Siege You can have. Playing anywhere else was like playing in Barney land.

Khnemu · « **Reply #11 on:** June 11, 2003, 02:17:50 PM »

I guess the point i'm making is that be smart, think before you fly, what is it exactly your wanting to do and against what.

a good example mentioned is a6ms vs b17s, if your the a6m dont whine because you died in a zeke when you should have been in a 109g10. etc etc

just seems to me that the smart pilots uses the right tool for the right job.

i think its interesting to see how the game uses these differing plane types for such varies purposes, beyond what they were originally designed for in real life, then complain about performance/dweebness etc.

I think if more, especially new people are taught to decipher such, this game would run much more smoothly:)

its common sense isnt it?

Khnemu · « **Reply #12 on:** June 11, 2003, 02:22:36 PM »

As for Ultima, i haven't played in awhile, will be again soon, i'll let you know, took a break to try halo and now this game:)

ramzey · « **Reply #13 on:** June 11, 2003, 02:24:00 PM »

a6m was attacking b17 in RL, several times
with succes

ramzey

Khnemu · « **Reply #14 on:** June 11, 2003, 02:30:39 PM »

Ramzey, i am sure you get my point though:)

the only a6m successes vs b17s as I understand it were on return flights ans lone planes ussually

I could be wrong, i often am:eek: