Author Topic: Friendly in trouble- help or not? (Read 1116 times)

Steve · « **Reply #15 on:** June 12, 2003, 06:26:33 PM »

Tumor quote
"Dork turns and heads straight for you leaving 10 gangbangers ample opportunity to pull HO's."

lol Tumor, I hate that!!

I'll tell guys... dude, turn away from me and I'll be able to engage, at least don't turn into me....dude turns into me. I'll come back, "Dude, I'm tryin to help but now I have to rev and try again".....dude turns into me again! I'll say, "you're on your own dude."
This happens... almost daily it seems. Try to tell them, turn away from your help... maybe even perpendicular... anything but right at it! Deaf ears man, deaf ears.

Had a guy roped yesterday, told a fellow rook. He said "Be right there."..then he proceeded to turn and vulch a couple of nits, leaving me with a hungry 109 climbing to my 6. I shook the 109, who promptly reversed and killed my fellow rooks who were vulching. When I commented to the rook on the bad choice he had made, he called me "A General". lol

jamusta · « **Reply #16 on:** June 12, 2003, 07:38:48 PM »

if i see fellow bish in trouble i always dive in whether im hvy or not. whether i know them or not. whether there are 1 or whether there are 20 on their 6. whether they turn into me or away from me. whether they did something stupid to get into the situstion or not. even tho i am getting more frustrated with the fact that only a handfull will help me, i will still try to save the azzes of even those in this post who have reasons not to help someone. who knows oneday they might remember me and return the favor. so if you are in trouble with bogeys on your 6 and you hear "Dude you're gonna get me killed!" on vox dont worry its just me. chances are you will still ptrobably die but let it be known that someone tried to help.

Drex · « **Reply #17 on:** June 12, 2003, 08:08:52 PM »

Hmmm...poor guy.

Drex

Steve · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12, 2003, 08:18:55 PM »

Jam, you are for nobler than I.

Stang · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2003, 08:24:56 PM »

Geez Steve you serve the guy up on a platter in the rope and he doesn't take it? sheesh. This stuff seems to happen all the time anymore. Wish I woulda been there to wax the bastige... And to answer the question, I always go in to save a fellow Rook, regardless if the guy would ever do it for me.

GScholz · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2003, 08:26:18 PM »

I wouldn't fight to the death to save a friendly, but I usually dive down just to break up an attack on a friendly, zooming back up to safety when the bad guys turn. Gives the friendly a chance to escape.

jamusta · « **Reply #21 on:** June 12, 2003, 09:21:26 PM »

Noble...I wouldnt call it that. I just know what ist like to be left out in the cold. Heck I even posted a story about it. I helped yucca out one time he had 5 on him. we ended up killing 2 a piece and the 5th was a spit that didnt want to fight anymore. one of the few times i survived helping some one.

my new saying is.."I think I can take em!!!!"

Zazen13 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 12, 2003, 11:44:51 PM »

After you've played these kinds of games awhile you come to realize everyone gets their jollies doing various things. I have always been an advocate of picking a side and sticking with them, so I have the benifit of learning the tendencies and general behavior of the regular players on my team. There are alot of people like myself who carefully assess the local situation before engaging, only doing so when they first ensure they are going after the highest target etc. Then there are those, particularily the K/H(time) worshippers that realize their best bet is to dive with reckless abandon into the first furball they see with little or no credence given to the overall tactical situation in the hopes of using overwhelming E to be their salvation from their own imprudence.

While I agree that in real life there was a high degree of pilot fidelity especially among squadmates to rescue one another, they all fought along the same premise. That is, to live to go home to their wives and children after the war. Obviously those kind of concerns are not actually present in the game, only virtually represented by the K/D statisitc. So, before I entertain the possibility of ending that particular virtual life to save another I first determine who it is and what their particular situation requires. Sometimes just lending some moral support is all they need, for example; blasting thru their aggressors giving a high deflection burst here and there to give him the chance to escape. Sometimes if there is a reasonable opportunity I can help someone I recognize as a good stick with some SA I'll hang with him if the odds aren't hopeless. Usually though it is some yahoo in an LA7 who got caught with his pants down chasing a spit9 back to 5 buddies and expects the next person coming along to drop 10k and save him from his own stupidity. This I will never do.

Some people just want to dive into bad odds in a hopeless situation and see how many they can bag before their inevtiable death. If that is the way they want to play so be it. But, like in the stock market sending good money after bad is the fool's way. Dieing for someone you do not know, or has proven they have no regard for the tactical situation is worse than bad, it actually encourages repetition of the same behavior.

WldThing · « **Reply #23 on:** June 13, 2003, 12:16:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13
Some people just want to dive into bad odds in a hopeless situation and see how many they can bag before their inevtiable death. If that is the way they want to play so be it. But, like in the stock market sending good money after bad is the fool's way. Dieing for someone you do not know, or has proven they have no regard for the tactical situation is worse than bad, it actually encourages repetition of the same behavior.

I call it Fun.

Steve · « **Reply #24 on:** June 13, 2003, 12:54:41 AM »

That's the good thing about your $15.00
To each his own, baby!!!!

Zazen13 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 13, 2003, 01:11:57 AM »

Exactly, different strokes for different folks. I just don't wanna hear the guys diving their LalaSpitniki's into a 5 on 1 complaining when I don't add my death to their "FUN". Giving 5 bangers the satisfaction of my pelt is not "FUN" to me. If that is fun to you, I'm really happy for you honestly, just don't drag your 5 gang- bangers to me while you are in your death throws...LOL

Thunder · « **Reply #26 on:** June 13, 2003, 02:25:52 AM »

When I ponder such a deep subject I sometimes ask myself "What would the "Duke" or Clint Eastwood do"? On the other hand, some have hero's like Senator Robert "Sheets" Byrd and they reason "Should we really beleive that there are 20 enemies down there", it much just be a screen aboration. When it really gets down to it there IS no "RIGHT" answer. Some prefer to be Whimps and Wussies and some like to be Macho Men. But of course......"That also depends on what your definition of "IS" is

WldThing · « **Reply #27 on:** June 13, 2003, 04:04:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13
Exactly, different strokes for different folks. I just don't wanna hear the guys diving their LalaSpitniki's into a 5 on 1 complaining when I don't add my death to their "FUN". Giving 5 bangers the satisfaction of my pelt is not "FUN" to me. If that is fun to you, I'm really happy for you honestly, just don't drag your 5 gang- bangers to me while you are in your death throws...LOL

Bah... No need for pity, i rather die than receive any.. After all i can re roll once more and finish what i started

SLO · « **Reply #28 on:** June 13, 2003, 09:02:54 AM »

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Originally posted by WldThing
Engage.... Whether there are 2 on him or 20... Im bound to get one of em in flames, even though i cant remember the last time i killed a con

thats cause you suck

.....and you know you suck.....you runstang dweeb:p

always go down and help......the difference is in HOW you do it

a) like Steve be a dweeb and make 1 pass come back to 20k perch.....then you can say 'I tried man';)

b) go really really fast....lose all altitude and speed adv. in 1 pass....get 1 or 2 kills....ping a few others....then die....like wldthing:D ...but ya look good doin it:D

or be like drex.....point the finger and laugh at em......thats what he calls help!!!!:eek:

Reschke · « **Reply #29 on:** June 13, 2003, 09:48:58 AM »

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Originally posted by FlameBoy
Depends, if i have heard of the name i will help, if not, i wont, because the last time i tried to help the friendly ran, and left me to deal with the horde, lol.

So what if I haven't heard/seen the name. I'm in to help if there looks like we will be able to get out and RTB. If its a squaddie I am in no matter what; as the squadron CO you gotta lay it on the line and hope like hell the rest of them show up to save your arse. So drop in scatter the covey and get a kill or three and make a break for friendly skies when possible.