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Scootter · « **Reply #30 on:** June 13, 2003, 05:14:47 PM »

You can have one!!

http://www.barrettrifles.com/test_sniper.html

http://www.barrettrifles.com/

buy one here

http://www.americanshooter.com/Gun_Tech/gun_tech.asp?act=showshow&show_id=241

If you reload you can shoot it for around 3 bucks a shot -+

the press and dies will run ya around $500 then your set
or you can buy surplus stuff from many places.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/dept.asp?page=2&dept%5Fid=20221&imgid=&categname=&dept%5Fname=Surplus+%26+Imports&mycount=17&mscssid=8SWTFHG6WCL39HJ0VAL2J5AHMX3WE1KE

not real good stuff for a sniper as it is for the M-2 Browning

Scootter · « **Reply #31 on:** June 13, 2003, 05:17:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
You can make .50cal sniper rifle in your garage with ease.
Sure it'll be semiautomatic but...

problem just is it wouldnt require as much work to trace the buyer of .50 cal ammo like some typical rifle calibers..

I think I will be in a bunker when you shoot you homemade .50, but that is just me a simple gunsmith.

midnight Target · « **Reply #32 on:** June 13, 2003, 05:29:03 PM »

Yours for only $3100

For those really really BIG deer.

MrCoffee · « **Reply #33 on:** June 13, 2003, 05:35:15 PM »

Thats the semi auto. Heres the $3100.00 bolt action model 99. Still the rounds cost 3 bucks.

Dune · « **Reply #34 on:** June 13, 2003, 05:35:37 PM »

.50 cal rifles have been around for a very long time. Except in the pre-WW2 days (and the early days of it) they were used as anti-tank rifles. Of course this was before the tanks got too tough.

The British version was the Boyes .55cal

My dad had one that had been re-barreled to .50cal. It was fun to shoot, although not so easy to do off-hand.

And I have only one thing to say to anyone who would seriously worry about a sniper using a .50cal - "You're an idiot.".

mauser · « **Reply #35 on:** June 13, 2003, 06:10:00 PM »

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Originally posted by anonymous
no common criminal is. but if its available to civilians then a dedicated shooter working as an assassin could really make protection detail guys have a near impossible task. the advance recon guys in the protection detail are now dealing with a weapon with effective range almost twice whay a .308 rifle has when it comes to countersniper prep that can also defeat alot of the armor involved in protecting vips. talking about vests and br glass.

I see your point - someone with the $$ could hire a hitman and arm him with one. Although I'm not planning on joining the 50 cal shooting association or getting even a bolt action .50, there's gonna be a bunch of honest folks that are gonna be out of a hobby if it goes through.

Anyway, I'm glad at least some of our armed forces have access to weapons and equipment they need. I got a T-shirt off of Barrett's website with the drawing of the M82A & the quote "Our troops deserve the best weapons... We agree" or something similar to that.

mauser

anonymous · « **Reply #36 on:** June 13, 2003, 06:50:30 PM »

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Originally posted by mauser
I see your point - someone with the $$ could hire a hitman and arm him with one.

mauser

certain parts of the world are filled with guys with alot of high speed training who are very poor and very unhappy about it. i know guys involved in the protection of very high ranking vips. the influx of alot of freelance former highly trained military types caused major organizational changes in outfits tasked with the protection of serious vips. somewhere in the world there is a highly trained guy who if you had enough money you could pay him to take someone out while acting as a sniper. its happened in parts of eastern europe more than once over the past five years or so. a US general narrowly avoided being killed or kidnapped along with his wife a couple of years back and the assault team were former military from eastern europe. the guys on the generals security detail were written up for some serious commendations for spotting the assault team early enough so they could get the general away in time. if the assault had been launched the security guys would have been toast. i gotta admit i never knew there was a larege number of people who had shooting .50 rifles as a serious hobby.

Dune · « **Reply #37 on:** June 13, 2003, 09:13:17 PM »

I would think that one of the last things even a professional sniper would use is a .50cal. Sure it's powerful and has long range but...

1. How often are you going to need a 1000 yard rifle in a city?
2. Are you trying to shoot through armor? A .308 AP will go through body armor or armored galss.
3. These things are huge and conspicous (sp)
4. There aren't a lot of these things sold. It wouldn't be too hard to track down one sold legally. And if it's sold illegally....then the law wouldn't help would it?

Even for a trained killer, it makes much more sense to use a standard caliber rifle to kill with. This isn't a battlefield with targets of oportunity. The hit would be so planned out that the target would be much closer. I just see it as completely impractical.

anonymous · « **Reply #38 on:** June 13, 2003, 10:23:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Dune
I would think that one of the last things even a professional sniper would use is a .50cal. Sure it's powerful and has long range but...

1. How often are you going to need a 1000 yard rifle in a city?
2. Are you trying to shoot through armor? A .308 AP will go through body armor or armored galss.
3. These things are huge and conspicous (sp)
4. There aren't a lot of these things sold. It wouldn't be too hard to track down one sold legally. And if it's sold illegally....then the law wouldn't help would it?

Even for a trained killer, it makes much more sense to use a standard caliber rifle to kill with. This isn't a battlefield with targets of oportunity. The hit would be so planned out that the target would be much closer. I just see it as completely impractical.

theres common sense in what you are saying. and im not talking about laws really like i mentioned i had no idea there was a large group of people that shot them for a hobby. but without being irresponsibly descriptive lets just say that there are scenarios where if you were trained properly you could pull off the attack against a vip with a .50 and you couldnt do it with a .308. there is armored glass in use that can keep you from zapping someone with any kind of reliability with any .308 round made. it may not be likely but its possible and the guys who protect people like the cic have to and do take every possiblity as serious as they can. kind of a pointless discussion tho i guess you can buy them on the open market. as for a thousand yard rifle in a city there were guys setting up firing lanes in bosnia that went thru several wrecked buildings. theyd focus on a doorway or stairwell inside an entryway several hundred yards away looking thru a couple of windows and a torn up wall. someone enters the entryway and has to walk around a bannister to mount the stairs and theyd zap em as they started up the stairs. mainly tho the big problem is that your countersniper guys have to clear locations out to about twice the distance that they did before. im sure its a pain in the ass.