What I miss about Air Warrior...

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by gofaster
... that I wish Aces High had:

(a) a kill list showing the last 5 guys I shot down and the last guy that shot me down.

(d) aircraft factories that, when killed, deprived that country of that plane.

a- Hopefully AW TOD will correct that, with a nice looking score page with medals and crap.

d- On the early AW maps there were FW-190 and Ki-84 factories also, but the Spitfire factory was the only one that was ever turned on.

[Arlo]

Well ... if you've seen the Austin Powers movies, you'd understand. Always turned on .... oh behave!

[Vermillion]

Sounds great Flossy ! It would be great to meet you face to face after all these years. I hope you make it.

One thing I miss about AW....  it was a much smaller group.  Especially in FR and within the Scenario crowd.  This built a sense of comraderie (sp?) that the larger crowds of today just can't understand.  Even your worst enemies were your friends.  And there was the sense of a new and exciting frontier that very few had come before you (I started at the very begining of the AW4W and WB's 0.99 era)... the whole internet multiplayer gaming thing.  Its something that we can never go back too, and something I will never forget.  But I'm damn proud to have been there.

[snocone]

i dont know if you guys read the help and training forum. i am talking to the skilled vets who really know what they are doin, ie shane, laz and you other guys. i would really like some hard, 1 on 1 training. i have been playing close to a year (so it may be hopeless) and have played no other flight sim since aces over europe and aces of the pacific (ancient). the squad i fly in is very small and members arent on very often, so not much help in training there. i dont have the time to just practice in the ma, since it is getting harder to find good fights. i live in the central time zone and work 9-5. so if my times coincide with yours, and you are interested in helping someone who is an attentive student and a fairly quick learner please speak up here or drop me a line. tanx

snocone815@yahoo.com

[humble]

Originally posted by Tilt


The most famous was I guess.... "Roadkill" (Big T)

Actually...now that you mention it I kind of miss Big T...and rocketman

[ZePolarBear]

What I miss and don't miss at the same time would be taking up a Ki-84 and then eventually end up under this big blue F4U.... somehow I knew it was killer...nothing like that little cold ball of fear gathering in your stomach knowing you were about to be handed your prettythang in a 1 v 1.

Although I do remember a couple of very memorable fights against him in FW's in Euro.

ZPB

P.S.  I also hated HiTechs P-38 in RR PAC back in '94 too.  But it did prompt me to begin learning that plane.......mmmmm flapps.

[Flossy]

Originally posted by Vermillion
Sounds great Flossy ! It would be great to meet you face to face after all these years. I hope you make it.

Yeah, you were around in AW long before I was, and also here in AH.  I only started in AW in 1998, and often wish I had 'discovered' it earlier.  

One thing I miss about AW....  it was a much smaller group.  Especially in FR and within the Scenario crowd.  This built a sense of comraderie (sp?) that the larger crowds of today just can't understand.

This is something I really came to appreciate as I became more experienced.  I caught the scenario bug very early on, when I gunned for Greas in Guadalcanal..... after that, I was in every scenario going, I think.  It was always fascinating after a scenario to see someone who I'd been flying in with in it was actually an enemy in the FR arena.  I must have made more friends through scenarios than anything else.  It's great to be now so involved in running events here, doing the same job you originally did in the CM team.  

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by culero
It worked fine, except when certain patches porked it until it got fixed again. It was working fine the last couple of years or so.

The key thing was that (in AW2 and AW3) one country could capture other country's strat facilities (factories and resupply depots). This allowed some real fun making it hell for the enema

Here's a simple but complete explanation, authored by Mage:

http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/AWStrat/AWstrat.html

culero

I thought the strat system in AW was really good, that is if a patch didn't break it like each patch seemed to do.  But when it was working, it was a very good system and the ability to capture factories and depots just enhanced an already good strat system.


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[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Shane
what i miss most from AW was the fact that seals and lamers pretty much got clubbed and edjumacated to become better players.

it seems in AH, the overall community endorses and espouses what truly horrifys the true "vets" of flight sims. i'm not referring to those k/d weenies who feel they have to survive at all costs.. they've been around since day one.

i'm also disappointed in that so many "vets" have abandoned their traditional role helping noobs and lamers become adequate players.

The problem as I see it that the unskilled score potatos are usually in the top ranks and the newbies look up to them because of their high rank, not realizing that these score potatos are in reality no better a player than the newbie.  So the newbie tries to emulate the score potato, picking up the score potato's bad habits and timid passive-aggressive like fighting style.

It's called the Voss/Zazen Passive-Aggressive Timid Combat Syndrome and it seems to be corrupting the MA in epidemic proportions.  They can easily be indentified by their motto, "Why learn ACM when you can game the game", and usually have a confused, blank look upon their face when ACM and/or tactics are mentioned.


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[rpm]

Originally posted by Grimm
Naw,  My signature ride for a while in AW was the Mossie.   It was the King of Head Ons there.   You had so much ammo,  you couldnt really run it out. and It had the biggest Guns in the Game. So you could just Spray and Spray on the merge.

It was a Drag Magnet too..   Guys would fixate on your six, and squadies could come pick them off with easy.   If your enemy ignored you,  You simply turned it around (actualy it was hard to turn) and snuck up and killed him.   It also had BuffTuff Hardness so it was really hard to shoot down.  

I forgot about the Mossie. If you were real good dragging a low fighter, you could drop 1 egg from about 600ft and blow him up on your 6.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by rpm371
I forgot about the Mossie. If you were real good dragging a low fighter, you could drop 1 egg from about 600ft and blow him up on your 6.

Remember the uber-turning-fighting-B17s?  I had one once chasing my P-38 when I pulled up into a steep climb and dropped my bombs that I carried and was rewarded with a kill message on the uber-17.  SkyKi was whining real loud after that one


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[WhiteHawk]

I agree with that bboson, AW had a hell of an offline agenda.
  Still one of the best mission builders I have ever used.
Except the damm ace opponents shot from at 45  degree angles from the nose.  But so did xOOx.

[Gloves]

I miss goons with guns.  Never shot anything down with them, but at least I had a gun in my goon.

Glove

[gofaster]

Originally posted by Shane
what i miss most from AW was the fact that seals and lamers pretty much got clubbed and edjumacated to become better players.
 

I think some of that has to do with the widespread abuse of the LA-7 as a do-everything fighter.  If a new guy gets in trouble in an LA-7, he can always run away before any maneuvering gets into play.  I've seen a lot of players use the LA-7 to do airfield strikes, simply because they know they can do a token bomb drop on a VH or city, then de-ack the field and vulch it until they either run out of gas or ammo or both.  If they encounter a defensive fighter CAP, they simply drop the eggs and run.  No fancy ACM there.

In the days of AW, the dweeb ride was the Spitfire, which could be caught by the Mustang and the 190.  Players in the Spitfire were forced to learn how to dogfight, because running really wasn't an option.

[Krusher]

FIGHTER TOWN...

I know you can use the Duel arena, but it just isnt the same.
Anyone who hung out there can tell you that you became a better pilot for doing so.

I miss the guys in FT too
Mc2
Rotor Drano < 109 boy
Buzz <> I just plain miss Buzz
HR  <
Shane
Big-T  Silk

 and all the other guys who would fly n die for the fun of it