Author Topic: Why is the F4U-1 40 ENY? (Read 941 times)

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 17, 2003, 11:55:40 AM »

Yup. The Hog-1 is the plane of choice under 23k for me, anything above and thats F4U-4 Country. That hog-1 is a dream to fly when on the edge but a gull-winged coffin elsewhere. Regardless of ammo loadout, I've managed to outturn most, including the niki, over 300 IAS

I only take the Delta for pure jabo these days. I won't even bother with the Charile.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #16 on:** June 17, 2003, 03:13:08 PM »

Redtail,

I can't fly the C-hog to save my life. I keep thinking about the HO and forget ACM. I would do better if I could turn those 4 20mils around backwards.

For some reason the F4U-1 seems to be more stable in yaw and durable especially in the wings.

As far as ammo load goes half of the F4U ammo is 1200 rounds which is as much as a full load on a P-51B. That is more than enough for me depending on what the nme situation is like.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 18, 2003, 10:37:13 AM »

Rgr that, F4UDOA,

We really don't need that uch ammo in the hog, loadout options would be nice...basically, if I get winchester in a hog, I've been in the fight too long, anyway, and I'll either be close to fumes, or too low on the deck to make it home safely.

In the hog-4 I always up with 2 externals, and full internal fuel...I'll run externals dry even while fighting, then think about heading home when I get to 75% internal...nothing worse then deadsticking a perk hog home..with everyone chasing you

OAN...I am grounded till I get home internet again, I won't be flying for a while, it seems

Gainsie

Reschke · « **Reply #18 on:** June 18, 2003, 11:59:50 AM »

My preferred loadout in the -1 is to have full internal fuel and the drop tank as well. I don't worry about firing off ammo as I need all I can get. Also I like to hunt those elusive IJ bombers that people up to make torpedo runs with as well as the daring overland bomb drop. It makes for some great fun flying into a group of IJ bombers with a couple of VF-17 wingmates hanging around watching for Nikis and A6's

Widewing · « **Reply #19 on:** June 18, 2003, 08:17:36 PM »

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Originally posted by F4UDOA
I would take the F4U-1 in AH over the F4U-4 under 20K.

It turns and handles better than the others down to the stall which is worse than the rest.

Speed is excellent.

Climb is poor.

But never take more than 50% fuel and 25% if not going to far.

And here is a trick if you want to out turn NIK2's and win. Shoot off half your ammo on take off. Take the inside guns down to 800 rounds and the out side down to 400 rounds.

Your climb and turn will cause some people to think your cheating.

I prefer the -4 to any other hog, at any altitude. Acceleration is tremendous and combined with the climb rate, it means that the F4U-1 has to pray that the -4 doen't take the fight vertical.

I use the F4U-4 very effectively for combating the La-7. I've never lost to one and killed some pretty good Lavochkin sticks who figured they had a decent chance from the get-go. The secret? Use that roll rate and awesome rudder to hit 'em from angles they thought were impossible.

I suspect that due to the high perk cost, most players don't get enough time in the -4 to learn how best use its capabilities.

As for the CHog, it's the hardest to fly, but the easiest to kill with. Just don't tool around on the deck with it, but grab 10-15k, which gives you some options. If bounced, simply turn into the attacker and give a face full of Hispanos.

My regards,

Widewing

F4UDOA · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2003, 01:45:24 PM »

Heya Widewing,

Luv to see ya in the DA for a little -1 vrs -4 action.

I am very dissapointed in the -4 FM which is one reason I don't use it often.

I find it has some stabilty issues at low speed that make it more difficult to fly than the -1 particularly in scissoring fights.

Also in AH the additional weight has too much affect on handling. The handling seems to be much heavier in the -1 even with the extra power.

Even at high alt (15 to 20K) I can horse the F4U-1 around better than I can the -4. Don't know why but it just feels lighter even at the same loaded weight.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2003, 12:52:36 PM »

I've only fought two La-7's in the Hog-4, lost both times....can't seem to figure it out.

The hog-4 seems lighter to me all the way around. I just prefer to keep a higher harddeck in the hog-4 due to perk tag issues. Otherwise, it would be my full time ride, perk cost or not.

I agree that the FM for all Corsairs is somewhat hosed, and the hog-4 is the only one that actually performs like the Corsair did in RL. Oh well.

Gainsie

2Hawks · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2003, 04:10:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Frost
It is faster but the acceleration is much worse than the other F4Us. It climbs like a fully loaded Lancaster. mb (no rockets).

use 1 or 2 notches of flaps in the F4U-1 for better climb rate.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2003, 05:09:28 PM »

Negative 2Hawks. No way.

You can set climb speed lower, say to 140MPH for a small increase but definitely no flap.

Arlo · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2003, 05:50:12 PM »

Gotta go with DOA on this. I've mistakenly left a notch of flaps down on takeoff and wondered why the hell my plane's climbing so slow on wep .. only to glance over ... doh! Flaps up and back to my 2.5 roc.

nopoop · « **Reply #25 on:** June 21, 2003, 03:06:33 PM »

For some reason I just die in the -1. I have more 1-D sorties than all the other planes combined by a long shot. My plane of choice.

Started flyin the C-hog a tour back and when I finally got over the feeling that it was "special" and just flew it as a 1-D I found I love the damn thing. Don't use perks for anything anyway and the big fuggin guns make up for my chitty gunnery.

Great ride.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 21, 2003, 10:26:45 PM »

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Originally posted by F4UDOA
Negative 2Hawks. No way.
You can set climb speed lower, say to 140MPH for a small increase but definitely no flap.

Rgr that, but in the warbirds collection, the hog-1 (it might be the -1a) reports the climb default is 135MPH.

And I'd love to know how the hog climbs at 2.5...are you carrying externals?

Gainsie