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Offline Syzygyone

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« Reply #105 on: June 21, 2003, 08:34:34 AM »
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I won't shave my armpit and won't be your jail woman.

or did I mistranslate your post ??

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LOL!

Yes you did, I meant that here, we don't jail women for shaving their armpits!:D

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« Reply #106 on: June 23, 2003, 10:34:10 AM »
"Gee, guess you're right. After all, look at our "Indians"; they now constitute the world's largest democracy. Where are all your "Indians" now, please remind me?"

they are running casinos and getting the benifiet of having two govenments to choose from.   the ones who aren't doing well are at least alive.. they would not have been allowed to live if the tribe next to them had anything to do about it.

your indians?  LOL... what an armpit of a country.  If you see the army there you better run.

What is the differnce between the way the U.S. treated the indians and the way the brits treated every country?  first off...In the U.S. the brits treated "our indians" even worse than we did.

We did not overthrow the legitimate rullers and enslave the population like british colonialism.. There was no govenment of "indians' to overhrow.. we made treaties with various tribes that got broken by the citizens of both the tribes and the U.S.

we played by their rules.. they had no concept of land ownership... the most powerful tribe moved in..  we were the most powerful tribe.   You, on the other hand... moved cross the ocean to attack a soverign govenment and then enslave the population for your own profit.

I would say that africa is most like the America of our indians... many tribes all killing each other and ruining the land as they go.. the only restraints being that the land healed before they got back and disease and warfare keeping the population down.

but... I am willing to hear about another example of where the U.S. conquered and enslaved a soverign nation or even one where the brits left one better off than before they got there.

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« Reply #107 on: June 23, 2003, 11:09:12 AM »
"even one where the brits left one better off than before they got there".

Bermuda.  It was a bare rock..now it's full of money.

Colonialism was the best damn thing that could have happened to this island.

Conversley, let's look at Jamaica.  They were granted their independence from Britain.  It is now broke, full of crime and full of people trying to leave.
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« Reply #108 on: June 23, 2003, 11:53:18 AM »
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...one where the brits left one better off than before they got there.

All of them.  Imagine if Australia or India had been colonized by the French or Spanish.  Yuck.

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« Reply #109 on: June 23, 2003, 12:36:53 PM »
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Where are all your "Indians" now, please remind me?


(raises hand)  still here... look around.

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« Reply #110 on: June 23, 2003, 01:00:37 PM »
heh you guys are having pretty small balls if you really care what others think about you.

anyway at least our prime minister had enough balls to quit in her job after she was caught lying.
Maybe Jr grows some balls too one day  :)

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« Reply #111 on: June 23, 2003, 01:24:52 PM »
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Actually, despite the 2000 election, conventional wisdom is that the electoral college gives more influence to the larger states.

It would be nice if the little redneck states did not wield disproportianate power in Congress.  We wouldn't be stuck with our stupid farm subsidy programs and ethanol mandates, and California would see billions more in their taxes spent at home rather than shipped off to other states.

"In 2000, Californians sent nearly $30 billion more to Washington in federal taxes than the state received back in federal spending. This $29.3 billion total was an alltime record for any state, surpassing the previous mark -- also set by California in 1999 -- of $23.1 billion. The state’s exchange with Washington was thus more than $6 billion further into the red than just one year prior."

http://www.calinst.org/



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« Reply #112 on: June 24, 2003, 08:58:36 AM »
you got a point curval... when england leaves the country does better.  
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« Reply #113 on: June 24, 2003, 09:16:57 AM »
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you got a point curval... when england leaves the country does better.  
lazs


No..when England leaves the country goes to hell in a hand basket...visa vis Jamaica.  The Brits are still here on my rock and we are doing just fine thanks.
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« Reply #114 on: June 24, 2003, 10:09:31 AM »
Funny how in India they ape British institutions, legislature and democracy. And send their kids to Oxbridge for a degree. Yes, the British occupation was a completely negative experience for them.

And Hong Kong? Just look what they did to that!

And Zimbabwe - haven't they done well since independence?

And Sierra Leone - the presence of British troops means that some sense of normality can be restored... after an attempt at independence.

My point? Some times freedom from 'tyranny' is about a million times worse than living under a 'police state'.
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« Reply #115 on: June 24, 2003, 10:20:59 AM »
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My point? Some times freedom from 'tyranny' is about a million times worse than living under a 'police state'.


At least you made the trains run on time.

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« Reply #116 on: June 24, 2003, 10:55:06 AM »
Trains don't run on time in Britain, BTW. Our train service is expensive and hopeless. And we invented the damned thing.
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« Reply #117 on: June 24, 2003, 11:10:29 AM »
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Trains don't run on time in Britain, BTW. Our train service is expensive and hopeless. And we invented the damned thing.


Yeah, and it  was invented by Al Gore's great great great great Gandmother!:D :eek: