Etiquette (??spelling)

[Extreme]

....What would you do if you see a friendly fighting one-on-one against an opponent?

I guess what I'm really trying to get out of this post is, I want my kills when I've worked for it. That is, have a look and see if your mate is in trouble first or ask before diving in and getting the kill.  

What I'd rather see is the friendlies staying high to cover inbound bogies.  I think at most there should only be 2 guys against an enemy...even the best pilots will have trouble with this number.  You don't need 5-6 guys on one bogey.

Just a thought...

Cheers,
Ex

[-kier-]

Of course in a 1 vs. 1, if it was real life you would assist. As it is a game, well, depends.

If your guy seems to be in charge, stay out! Be ready to jump if your friend loses the edge.

5 vs. 1 shouldn't happen, but does. You're right, the rest of the pack should remain high and cover the fight.

A lot of new people are here, and in time you learn not to blow all your E for a "piece".  

[dawg]

I like to stay high and watch the fite hoping to learn something. It's easy enough to see when the friendly gets into trouble and then I jump in. If someone scoops a kill I have setup, though, it just ain't worth the heartburn getting torqued over it. Just remember those who show consideration and make those guys your friends.

[TT]

 Ive had to grit my teeth a few times after ive blown a wing off a con and than watched 2 or 3 countrymen follow him down shooting and trying to steal the kill. But generally I look at it as being on a team. As long as the guy dies i aint to particular. Let me just say that if you see ME anywhere near a con, dont wait to see who has who. Shoot the bastage.

[Extreme]

I don't usually say anything about it coz sometimes I'm guilty of it myself...Like I said, I don't mind if someone helps when it's like 2v1 or 2vmany kinda situations, but I really grit my teeth when a swarm of guys dive in and there's like one bogey...

Anyways, in these situations I usually letm have it. Besides it gives me a chance to disengage...

Ex.

[Westy]

lol.

I've had that happen many times too TT and I figure if they want it that bad let them have it  

I've caught myself diving after a con out of a furball a few times only to realise that the Con was in no way going to make it.

But I've seen what you're saying and I think
it's  funny.
--Westy

[Downtown]

Generally speaking, I go for the 6 clear of a friendly.

I love to get in a 1-v-1 and win.

I don't mind a little help.

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Very Opinionated Person.

[-floo-]

Generally, when I DO take up a fighter and not my B17   I'll ask my country mate if he needs help. If I don't get a reply and it looks like hes in real trouble I'll dive right in and try to help out.

As for who gets the kill I really don't care so long as the enemy is out of my sky  

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[chester]

Piling on i have always disliked.It does seem though that the kills are being awarded more fairly.I almost never follow someone down if i've hit them well.Lately i've been scoring most of my kills after i've lit  a bad guy up and extended away.I have seen the feeding frenzy as the con gets pounced,the kill often goes to me.

[Minotaur]

First off, I seldom miss the chance to be a "Low Life Sniper"!      Somehow I achieve some satisfaction (LOL - Revenge) in doing this.

If you come into a 1 vs 1 fight, it often helps to "Just be There".  It makes a difference how the NME flies and lets your teamate fly more aggessively.  You can BnZ the NME.  You can shoot at air around them, shoot at the NME or not shoot at all.  Anything to distract the NME and help your teamate.

It is very hard to tell if your teamate is defensive.  They are often too busy to respond.  Better safe than sorry.  If your teamate turns out to be defensive, then it really helps them out to shoot their attacker.    I have heard "Thanks for Your Help" many times, but never "Stay, the Fog, out of my Fights".

I have seen 3-5 on 1 fights, where the "ONE" was turning their buns off and really doing well.  I bet the "ONE" was just having a ball.

IMO dueling is not the place for MA.  Check your six, BABY!

Mino


[This message has been edited by Minotaur (edited 11-15-1999).]

[By-Tor]

 I was going to bite my tongue on this 1- but now ive had a few drinks ;} Tonight was accused by XXXX of always having alt. adv. Interestingly, same pilot was 1 of 5 i was defending field against alone. Firstly-i was NOT flying spit and so afforded myself the single adv factor of alt. Well aftr being "probed" a couple times over main channel for my less than fair tactics(and warping),I took offense and stated  I would let the enemy have the field unopposed and fly elsewhere.I appologize to all for having used "open" channel for this inane BS. I often fly alone VS many and so afford myself an alt adv-only smart. To those i offended-again sorry-but this sim is just SO good it keeps my passion on the verge of confrontation.Truely immersing this one is HT-THX again.To my detracters- "On yer guard mates"! ;}

[-sudz-]

I usually don't care if I see a 1 v. 1 fight - I dive right in.  Depending on the situation I either try to intimidate the enemy (without firing) and let the disruption work to the friendly's advantage, or, if there are inbound, I'll toast him if I can.  I need that fighter taking on the new incoming with enough time to get alt or rtb.

Too many times it's consideration of our country's fields that make my mind up.  There are too many factors to allow an uninterupted 1 v. 1 without a dueling arena available.

I say toast 'em - I'm not out for kills but the needs of the country.  Let people duel on the out-skirts, when I see an nme he's fair game.

-sudz-

PS  However, I will qualify that by saying that if an nme is obviously down then don't shoot.  Save the ammo for the "World" fight.

[Extreme]

I guess you guys are the good ones  ...

And no I'm not there for h2h otherwise I wouldn't be there...I still would like to get my kills though..that's the point  .

With respect to defending a base, and I know it sounds like a cliche, but I think it's better to defend by attacking.  You get one over the NME launch base and you can hold up 3-4 guys.  Imagine what you'd do by getting 2 or 3 guys over there.  This belongs in another thread though...

RE: guys diving in after my ded bogey.. I usually point out he's ded..If I type quick enuff I might actually be awarded the kill  

Ex

[weazel]

 

Tonight I was accused by XXXX of always having alt. adv.

LOL! That cracks me up,he he-what did the dumb a** want-a "fair fight"? I always take off at least 2 fields away from the fight and try to have at least 15-20k of alt when I enter the hot zone. Thats just smart flying BYTOR.<S> Now quit screwing around and join JG2 so I don`t have to shoot you down anymore.  

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[-cman-]

Well, we clearly have the moral minority posting in this thread.  Unless people are professing to be more proper than they are in practice.  

I too, generally let my comrade fight it out, although if he is about to get beat, I storm on in.  Often too late.

The only thing that really bugs me to the point of yelling and screaming (and usually waking my daughter who is asleep by the time I am flying) is when I am firmly saddled up on a bogey and one of my contrymen starts shooting at him from behind me.  That's just nasty!

Look guys, if you are going to horn in on a fight at least hold your fire until you have overtaken the guy who is currently saddled up.  If you don't have the E to overtake, then don't freakin shoot.  Clear the other guy's six.  

Like any sane pilot, when I am boresighted on a con and see tracers whipping past the cockpit, I get the hell out of Dodge.  Thus endeth the rant.

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-cman-
The Dweebs of Death
"Death before dishonor,
often just moments
before."



[This message has been edited by -cman- (edited 11-17-1999).]