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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2003, 07:16:31 PM »
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MT , don't be so dense, the russians say the rosenburgs WERE spies, but the russians got the bomb design from another spy,(forget his name) the USA was full of russian spies, the russians now admit it.

McCarthy was right.


I memory serves, Paul Fuchs is probably who you were thinking of.  He was a phyisist and part of the Manhattan Project team.  He fed info to the Soviets in real time, so when Truman announced the sucess of the Trinity test to Stalin at the Potsdam conference, Stalin already knew.

And McCarthy was a dangerous idiot. He forgot we defeated Facism a few years before.  Inferred in the constitution is freedom of thought, and he was trying to control peoples thought with fear of government retribution.  If he was looking for unAmerican activity, he should have looked in the mirror.
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2003, 07:37:44 PM »
Klaus Fuchs.  The Brits didn't even have the balls to hang the ****er.

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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2003, 07:53:27 PM »
I see I'm not the only one who was pissed off after reading the Globe article:  http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8447

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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2003, 09:56:38 PM »
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He was right about what?... The 500  no 300 no 200 subversives in the State Department? He was right about the danger to our way of life that men like Zero Mostel were just waiting to perpetrate?

Give me a break!

He was right that the US government was widely infiltrated by Soviet spies, that the US Communist party was working directly with the Soviets, that the US government, defense plants,  and military were easily penetrated by spies.  Many changes to government and military personnel procedures resulted from his investigations.  He was the first to call an alert to these infiltrations.  

He was also a numbskull who used his anti-communist campaign for pure political self-promotion.  He went after leftists, liberals, and former communists as though they were disloyal.   A more level headed Senator could have pursued Soviet agents without the showboating, and anti-communism wouldn't be synonymous with witch hunts today.



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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2003, 11:29:37 PM »
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I see I'm not the only one who was pissed off after reading the Globe article:  http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8447
great letter !
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2003, 07:50:52 AM »
Let me get this right. Three New Yorkers, one of whom is an actress, and a dude from Boston go to suck some long dead traitor spys dick, and its somehow Hollywood's fault?

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2003, 12:30:55 PM »
Saying McCarthy was right about commie infiltration is like saying that if you spray enough bullets into a crowd you're bound to kill a criminal.

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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2003, 12:45:05 PM »
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Saying McCarthy was right about commie infiltration is like saying that if you spray enough bullets into a crowd you're bound to kill a criminal.


What I read and see on TV (in American programms) makes me think that the things that happened here and in the US in 1940s-50s look very similar...

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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2003, 01:38:33 PM »
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Saying McCarthy was right about commie infiltration is like saying that if you spray enough bullets into a crowd you're bound to kill a criminal.

It's more like saying if you spray enough bullets into a crowd of criminals your bound to kill a criminal.

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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2003, 09:22:14 AM »
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MT , don't be so dense, the russians say the rosenburgs WERE spies, but the russians got the bomb design from another spy,(forget his name) the USA was full of russian spies, the russians now admit it.

McCarthy was right.


IMAO .. US is full of many spies al around world .... its way cheaper to rob US .. i.w. chinna and Nuke missiles :D


and be careful about past time ;)

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2003, 10:56:31 AM »
The electric chair is/was a horrible invention. IIRC it was created back when electricity was the new wondrous thing that'd make everything easy (and it did make lots of things easy).

But as a humane, civilized way of execution it has no place. Takes too long and if anyone like I have bothered to read about how it kills (and the time it takes), they'd know that the electric chair is not far from burning at the stake.

A civilized state must have the right to punish, but the electric chair is beyond that. It's cruel vengeance.

The wife shouldda been thrown in jail for not reporting her husband's activities, but evidence, including released old Soviet documents, strongly indicate that she knew about her husbands activities, might have supported them, but refused the Soviets attempt to get actively involved. She might have died because she loved her husband and just wanted to support him. Or she was a commie symphatizer. Doesn't seem like she was a great spy though.

Anyway, am glad you Yanks have found more effective ways of killing people rather than using the electric chair.

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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2003, 11:15:54 AM »
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Anyway, am glad you Yanks have found more effective ways of killing people rather than using the electric chair.


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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2003, 11:16:14 AM »
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The electric chair is/was a horrible invention. IIRC it was created back when electricity was the new wondrous thing that'd make everything easy (and it did make lots of things easy).

But as a humane, civilized way of execution it has no place. Takes too long and if anyone like I have bothered to read about how it kills (and the time it takes), they'd know that the electric chair is not far from burning at the stake.

A civilized state must have the right to punish, but the electric chair is beyond that. It's cruel vengeance.

The wife shouldda been thrown in jail for not reporting her husband's activities, but evidence, including released old Soviet documents, strongly indicate that she knew about her husbands activities, might have supported them, but refused the Soviets attempt to get actively involved. She might have died because she loved her husband and just wanted to support him. Or she was a commie symphatizer. Doesn't seem like she was a great spy though.

Anyway, am glad you Yanks have found more effective ways of killing people rather than using the electric chair.


They are being executed, not manicured.   It's usually a fast, clean death.  If you don't want to feel the pain, don't commit the crime.  It was their choice.

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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2003, 12:09:52 PM »
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What I read and see on TV (in American programms) makes me think that the things that happened here and in the US in 1940s-50s look very similar...

:(


I agree with you there Boroda. Propaganda ran rampant in both of our countries.

Harry Belefonte and Susan Sarandon supporting the "Rosenberg Children's Fund". LMAO!!!!!  That is so entirely idiotic all I can do is laugh about it. Openly taking a stance in support of traitors of our county... UNBELIEVABLE

I sure wish these Hollywood blowhard love muffines would quit tarnishing the Democratic Party. It's embarrassing and makes me want to vomit.
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