Author Topic: Air Turbulence (Read 535 times)

XNachoX · « **on:** June 18, 2003, 08:19:04 PM »

I was thinking about AH the other day and why it doesn't seem nearly as real as real flying, and I thought about the lack of wingtip vortices, propwash, thermals, etc. On a good flying day you'll be tossed around a bit by turbulence and it gives you something to do.

I hope to see the implementation of some sort of Turbulence model in AH2 that would heighten the reality factor for me.
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snafu · « **Reply #1 on:** June 19, 2003, 12:04:48 PM »

Yup, fully agree (And have suggested it in some previous threads) but the general consensious of opinion was no

. can't see how you can have a serious flight sim without it myself.

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acepilot2 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2003, 04:43:44 PM »

It would be cool to be inside a plane when it suddenly vibrates...makes a vibrating sound...would add a lot to immersion. In AH, the planes seem to fly way too smoothly.

XNachoX · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2003, 07:40:44 PM »

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Originally posted by acepilot2
It would be cool to be inside a plane when it suddenly vibrates...makes a vibrating sound...would add a lot to immersion. In AH, the planes seem to fly way too smoothly.

Went up today with my instructor on a calm day with blue skies and sunshine, and the plane was bouncing around constantly. I had to make constant control inputs to keep the plane on course, and for me that's the most enjoyable experience.

ramzey · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2003, 08:19:12 PM »

it will be nice for reality but bad for game play
Imagine this whine about random turbulence, same like random damage for engine or guns jam. Noone will like it on MA
Of course nice addon for SEA or CT

ramzey

BenDover · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2003, 08:49:39 PM »

Why would people complain about turbulance?

All it would do is put off the air-quakers, and isn't that a good thing?

ramzey · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2003, 09:10:27 PM »

- i cant hit anything, lets try HO only
- i cant hit anything, better i take another ostwind
- i cant hit anything, lets do another kamikadze jabo raid
- i allmost got him when f*** turbulence destroy such a nice shoot

enough?

U feel turbulences when u sit in real plane cockpit. When u sit on PC u not have real flight simulator like is used for pilots traning.
All what u can see will be shakes and atlitude drop on gouges.
Imo not to feel correct sittng on chair. Most of players even not have FFB sticks

turbulences are really challange but for well trained pilots, not for newbies from MA
Personal id like to see this, but it will be not good for HTC
AH2 will be still mmog not real simulator

ramzey

XNachoX · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2003, 02:54:04 AM »

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Originally posted by ramzey
- i cant hit anything, lets try HO only
- i cant hit anything, better i take another ostwind
- i cant hit anything, lets do another kamikadze jabo raid
- i allmost got him when f*** turbulence destroy such a nice shoot

I don't see how it would affect your ability to aim the reticle, and it would never destroy a shot from 300 yds. or closer. Maybe from 500-1000 yds. it will, and that and that is a GOOD thing. It will help stop the insane shot distances we currently see. It wouldn't be hard to have convincing turbulence with head bob and camera shake. It would give you something to do on long flights out, and autopilot can still take care of it if you don't like having to micro-manage.
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SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2003, 05:24:06 PM »

It would ... look IL2 FB when you fly in turbulences, you aim for the guy then suddenly your cross air is off ... &^%$#@ and you miss. Really irritating when you are not flying an ubber plane and you have only this one shot to get the guy.

what I love from IL2, is moderate turbulences when you fly in the clouds. it's a nice touch.

Manedew · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2003, 07:18:52 PM »

Think HTC mentioned this .. proably was Pyro ... said something like (Wind and tubulance are to complicated to simulate effectively and we don't wish to put any 'random' model's in place)

Which is why the current wind model is basic (but not random)

hazed- · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2003, 07:43:32 PM »

how about you tie your chair to your washing machine and make 'brrrrrrm' and 'vrrrrrrt' noises, then cut your joystick wires so you get intermitant losses of control?

that would simulate turbulance nicely and we can keep AH the way we like it

hehe I wouldnt mind some turbulance etc but I would prefer it be an option. I think there could be quite a few optional features added that would enhance CT or SEA arenas whilst in MA we could have the slightly less demanding setup.

Midnight · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2003, 12:04:26 PM »

I think at the very least, we should have prop-wash modeled. That is not a random thing and could be made into a simple model in this sim.

When I flew at Air Combat USA, I went through the prop-wash of the other A/C. It was noticable but not serious to the flight path I was taking. However, in the game, it could become a defensive weapon for experienced pilots and would give some of the heavy bombers a break from the 6 O'clock tail sitters with thier 20mm cannons.

BenDover · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2003, 12:23:51 PM »

I like 6 o'clock tail sitters:D

Kaz · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2003, 12:43:09 PM »

what I love from IL2, is moderate turbulences when you fly in the clouds. it's a nice touch.

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I love this too, it's very well modelled IMHO. Certainly adds to the immersion factor.

ramzey · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2003, 01:30:33 PM »

i really like this idea but

simply chose

turbulence or better fps

fps is a winner;)