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Offline funkedup

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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2003, 03:22:29 PM »
Nice hijack by the dumbocrap lovers!
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2003, 05:39:38 PM »
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Deficits have NEVER led to economic down turns or increases in the interest rates. Go read a history book on economics. Tax cuts have never led to economic down turns.

Entitlement SPENDING leads to economic down turns.

After Kennedy’s 2.8% GDP tax cut the revenues grow.
After Reagan’s 3.3% GDP tax cut revenues grow from 500B to 900B in 10 years.
After Bush 1% GDP (first tax cut) and .25% GDP tax cut. That’s right 1.25% combined GDP tax cut which makes them the third and fourth largest not the LARGEST as the media like for you to believe. It also makes them the third and fourth we ever had.
We will see revenues grow once again. And then Hillary can win in 2004 and run the country into the ground like her husband did. And then we will elect a Republican to fix it again. Same old cycle.


Economic stats are like all other stats. They can be bent, folded, spindled, and mutilated to make any point you want to make. The predominantly conservative crowd in here will agree with your sources. A group with a liberal agenda would show just the opposite of your conclusions with the same data. I use plain ol' common sense. You run up a big bill for "Iraqi Fifedom" and then cut taxes. Someone gonna have to pick up the tab, and the benefactors of the tax break ain't them.
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2003, 05:41:15 PM »
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Nice hijack by the dumbocrap lovers!


OMG, he called me a name!  Make him stop! Oh, the pain, the pain!!
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2003, 05:44:19 PM »
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Time for Arfann to abandon this thread or try to hijack it.  He's faced with hard facts, as a dem supporter he can do nohting else.


If you say they're hard facts then, by Gawd, they're hard facts. No matter who manufactured them from the available data.
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2003, 05:47:54 PM »
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If you say they're hard facts then, by Gawd, they're hard facts. No matter who manufactured them from the available data.




 Here's the site the Kerry quotes were taken from.....

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=1997_record&page=S12254&position=all

the congressional record.....:rolleyes:
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2003, 05:56:12 PM »
You're right Arfann, the congressional records are all lies formulated by the vast right wing conspiracy.
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2003, 06:24:56 PM »
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Here's the site the Kerry quotes were taken from.....

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=1997_record&page=S12254&position=all

the congressional record.....:rolleyes:


Oh, no! Not the rolling eyes from hell! Anything but that! :eek:

BTW, I made no claim that the Kerry quotes were anything but true. Y'all spinning 1 + 1 into 3 again.
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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2003, 06:47:13 PM »
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What does that have to do with this thread?  Unfortunately I expect there will be many more US deaths in the war on terror.  Thus far it is much lower than what I had expected, Thank God.


Actually there have been over 50 dead American soldiers in Iraq since the war 'ended', including one today, not all hostile fire but a mounting toll. Apparently six have been killed so far by one sniper. According to reports I saw the troops are getting restless. They expected to be going home by now and for it to have ended but they are still getting killed.

It will be interesting to hear what they have to say when they do get home.

By the way, Udie, Iraq wasn't supposed to be part of the war on terror. It was all about WMD's and liberating Iraqis.
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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2003, 06:59:07 PM »
Well, we are backing up our assertions w/ quotes from the man himself.  While you blamed Bush forthe economy etc with no facts whatsoever.  Then you accuse US of not having hard facts.  what kind of hypocrite are you?
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« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2003, 07:08:32 PM »
Tempest in a teapot.
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2003, 07:45:00 PM »
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Do I need to post the links to Clintons inaction to get Osama?


Yeah, let's see if you can come up with a news article (not an op-ed) from a reputable newspaper.
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2003, 08:16:52 PM »
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Yeah, let's see if you can come up with a news article (not an op-ed) from a reputable newspaper.


Whats "Reputable"? NYT? LOL!  How about the BBC? LOL again!
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2003, 08:57:18 AM »
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So the question is.. why was the intelligence so bad?.. Let's ask Stan Turner..
USA Today  

How in the world does Stansfield Turner know what intell was given to the White House.  He is either flat out lieing, and has no basis forhis remarks other than "newspapers" or has broken very many laws and should go to jail.

Opps! guess we don't wanna ask him!.. Let's find somebody else with more creditability. I know... Clare Short


Gardian

Umm.. Ms. Short's testimony won't work either

Isn't Ms. Short just another out of power politician inventing unprovable "sources" aka deepthroat?  Isn't she just tyring to get back in the limelight?

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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2003, 02:29:47 PM »
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Whats "Reputable"? NYT? LOL!  How about the BBC? LOL again!


Those are reputable.  I would add the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, and even the USA Today.  The networks are also acceptable sources.

Unaccetable sources would include The Drudge Report, the LA Weekly, Mother Jones, The Weekly Standard, The Nation, New York Post, Utne Reader, NewsMax, etc.

Good luck on your hunt JBA, you aren't going to be able to find crap.  Not only because such stories don't exist, but becuase I doubt you've ever been in a university library or used Lexis/Nexis.


And while I am here, I should remind everyone about the differences between 1997 and 2003.

In 1997, Saddam had kicked out the UN inspectors and they had been finding WMD.

In 2003, Saddam allowed the UN inspectors in and they had been finding nothing.

Big difference.  If Matt Drudge is going to write articles about Sen Kerry's statements in 1997, he should put them into perspective by stating what was happening in 1997 and not assume that his ignorant readers will be able to figure it out for themselves.
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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2003, 02:56:03 PM »
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In 1997, Saddam had kicked out the UN inspectors and they had been finding WMD.
 


Please provide source for the claim that they had found WMD in 1997.  I'm real curious about that.

Thanks :D
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