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miko2d · « **on:** June 21, 2003, 08:43:12 AM »

Aleksandr Zaporozhsky?

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in November, 2001, he was enticed to revisit his homeland, on stepping foot in which he was whisked off, tried, and sentenced to 18 years in prison.

True, Zaporozhsky spied against Moscow, but when he did that, he was spying against a Soviet regime ultimately repudiated by the Russian people. It was ten years between the time the Russians shook off Communism and the time the Russian secret police got around to luring Zaporozhsky back to Russia. Why should they be mad at a citizen who turned against the regime finally rejected by everybody, including the Soviet president?

Any idea what's going on?

miko

Boroda · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2003, 10:52:14 AM »

http://www.fsb.ru/smi/ufsb/2003/030317-4.html

It's an official comment from FSB.

I didn't know about this traitor before...

Hmmm. Hard to find any information about this case. BTW, "democratic" press usually starts "human rights" hype about any spy, terrorist or oligarch, but I didn't hear anything about this man. Maybe even for that sold-out "free press" it's too obvious that he's a traitor?... I listen to "Echo of Moscow" radio every day, but they didn't even mention it.

BTW, where did you take that quote? As usuall, it contains obvious lies.

That colonel retired in 1997, 6 years after USSR felt apart. There is a certain tendency in a coverage of Russian news

http://chekist.ru/news/index.php?id=&page=4

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Other lie is that more then 70% of Russians miss Soviet Union, and think that USSR is their Motherland. Any military crime against USSR is crime against Russia. Even if the bastard spied against USSR he could expect the same treatment. BTW, many traitors that were amnested by Yeltsin in the time of "democratic circus" of early 90s are under investigation again, like Oleg Kalugin.

Boroda · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2003, 10:54:43 AM »

Sorry forgot to translate. He was sentenced to 18 years in prison for state treason and reporting of state secrets to the US.

Animal · « **Reply #3 on:** June 21, 2003, 11:01:26 AM »

Only 18 years?
I thought they shot people for that ****.

Boroda · « **Reply #4 on:** June 21, 2003, 11:08:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Animal
Only 18 years?
I thought they shot people for that ****.

Really? Do they shoot people for this things in US?

BTW, I have read a great book about Rosenbergs recently, written by a KGB officer who was Julius's "contact" in 44-46. The whole case was a fake

Hooligan · « **Reply #5 on:** June 21, 2003, 12:26:57 PM »

Ahh I see. Rosenberg's KGB handler said he wasn't a spy. Well that certainly clarifies things.

Hooligan

midnight Target · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2003, 12:27:53 PM »

See!

I told ya!

Boroda · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2003, 12:33:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Hooligan
Ahh I see. Rosenberg's KGB handler said he wasn't a spy. Well that certainly clarifies things.

Hooligan

Alexander Feklisov said that the only information Rosenberg provided was about radar technology and mostly proximity shells.

The only information about nuclear project was the sketch drawing from his wife's brother, Greenglass, and it was only a a scheme of "detonation lenses", that were known for several years already, and used in HEAT (cumulative) shells to straighten the detonation wave. Julius never even saw that sketch, it was delivered through another agent...

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2003, 12:50:21 PM »

Boroda is right, the USSR never actually spied on the USA... All those convicted of spying were innocent!

john9001 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2003, 12:58:40 PM »

....ONLY..'radar technology and mostly proximity shells. '......HAHAHA.....ONLY

Boroda · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2003, 01:04:46 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
....ONLY..'radar technology and mostly proximity shells. '......HAHAHA.....ONLY

The main reason to sentence Julius and obviously innocent Ethel to death was that they gave "nuclear secrets" to Soviets, that they were absolutely unable to do...

Try to read something about that tragic story.

Many Soviet intelligence officers admitted that Rosenbergs were indeed working for USSR, but Service of External Intelligence officials never made any comments about it.

SOB · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2003, 01:09:43 PM »

Thank god that Boroda can finally bring the truth of the matter to light.

Boroda · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2003, 01:12:20 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
Thank god that Boroda can finally bring the truth of the matter to light.

I just "sell it for the same price I bought it".

Try to find some literature about Rosenbergs case, and, if possible, both from "right" and "left" sides.

udet · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2003, 01:20:38 PM »

bloody commies. anybody who hurt the USSR amd helped the US is a hero IMO, regardless of their reasons.

john9001 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2003, 02:10:25 PM »

Rosenbergs brother-in-law was greenglass, a army sgt who worked at los alamos and passed on bomb secrets to Rosenbergs russian contact mr gold.

fuches gave the russians the theory of the bomb , greenglass (with help of the Rosenbergs) gave the plans.