Author Topic: Casualties mounting up in Iraq (Read 1304 times)

Creamo · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2003, 10:45:03 AM »

What am I supposed to read poopy?

Eagler · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2003, 11:02:31 AM »

the media reports and re-reports it. they repeat it so often, you have to listen carefully to tell if it's a new incident or a rehash of a previous one..

as nov 2004 approaches, they'll scream it from the highest mountain

sad, very sad, fact of life - but anyone thought it'd be anything else in post iraq is dreaming

Frogm4n · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2003, 11:25:49 AM »

you mean like our president eagler?

Vermillion · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2003, 11:33:21 AM »

Another thing to consider is that, even in total peacetime, there is a high accident/fatality rate for military training. Its just that its so normal and mundane that there is very little publicity and no one really notices.

Every week there is some plane crash, vehicle accident, or other training accident where someone is killed. But it never makes the headlines, and is usually stuck in section D page 4, with about a half a paragraph of written news.

As someone else mentioned, during the first Gulf War, the total deaths per trooper per time in the whole world (and that includes the combat casulties) was actually lower than during peacetime.

Boroda · « **Reply #19 on:** June 24, 2003, 01:34:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Vermillion
Another thing to consider is that, even in total peacetime, there is a high accident/fatality rate for military training. Its just that its so normal and mundane that there is very little publicity and no one really notices.

Every week there is some plane crash, vehicle accident, or other training accident where someone is killed. But it never makes the headlines, and is usually stuck in section D page 4, with about a half a paragraph of written news.

As someone else mentioned, during the first Gulf War, the total deaths per trooper per time in the whole world (and that includes the combat casulties) was actually lower than during peacetime.

So, you just proved my thought that US military tries to hide the real casuality rates.

When I said i don't believe that during agression in Yugoslavia the accident rates were smaller then on ordinary trainings - people started to shout at me that it's only Soviet Army where there are ANY accidents during training...

Soldiers shooting themself while cleaning the rifles!? What the hell did they do when they were supposed to get some training and safety instructions!?

Sure, your media will make it all look like it's "usual training casualities". So what are they going to say about losses in Yugoslavia?...

Americans got their own Chechnya. Only it's 20 times bigger.

How many pipelines are blown up by partizans every week? American officials try to make it look like accdients too, forgetting that such things never happened until they occupied the country...

john9001 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 24, 2003, 02:07:05 PM »

comrade boroda has an attitude about the former USSR.

Rude · « **Reply #21 on:** June 24, 2003, 02:12:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
So, you just proved my thought that US military tries to hide the real casuality rates.

When I said i don't believe that during agression in Yugoslavia the accident rates were smaller then on ordinary trainings - people started to shout at me that it's only Soviet Army where there are ANY accidents during training...

Soldiers shooting themself while cleaning the rifles!? What the hell did they do when they were supposed to get some training and safety instructions!?

Sure, your media will make it all look like it's "usual training casualities". So what are they going to say about losses in Yugoslavia?...

Americans got their own Chechnya. Only it's 20 times bigger.

How many pipelines are blown up by partizans every week? American officials try to make it look like accdients too, forgetting that such things never happened until they occupied the country...

You're wound a little too tight my little comrade....mellow out.

You must be young....nevermind.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #22 on:** June 24, 2003, 02:15:50 PM »

Broda, American media is more critical of its own government and military than any foreign press. They dont hide, they expose.

Yes, someone shot himself in the face cleaning his rifle. You know what else? He actually hails from my area - went to my old high school.

Accidents happen, they are bound to when your chosen occupation involves the handling of deadly weapons - but dont accuse our media of covering anything up - successful coverups dont get ratings, my friend.

Sure, the local papers wrote it off as a "non combat related fatality" and didnt go into details, but thats more for the family and friends of the victim - its bad form to print "DUMB SOLDIER SHOOTS FACE OFF WHILE CLEANING WEAPON" on the front page.

And as for comparing Iraq/Afgahnistan to Chechnya... thats a stretch.

gofaster · « **Reply #23 on:** June 24, 2003, 02:18:28 PM »

I just heard that Idi Amin is living outside of Mecca in Saudi Arabia!

SirLoin · « **Reply #24 on:** June 24, 2003, 02:18:29 PM »

He's right on the money Rude...Guess you don't have the "Stones" to admit that though.

GrimCO · « **Reply #25 on:** June 24, 2003, 04:02:27 PM »

Yeah Boroda,

The Russians NEVER cover anything up...

The Russian government is the most avid supporter of free speech and free press in the world today.

American media, however, is censored and controlled by the government, and you'll be jailed here if you print a story that exposes a government cover-up. The American news media is so supportive of our government, that they're willing to lie on the Government's behalf also.

God, it's unbearable living here in this totalitarian democracy. I think I'll defect to Russia immediately where I can say and print whatever I want.

midnight Target · « **Reply #26 on:** June 24, 2003, 04:21:36 PM »

Heard 6 Brits were killed in an RPG attack today. The war is far from over.

GrimCO · « **Reply #27 on:** June 24, 2003, 04:31:06 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Heard 6 Brits were killed in an RPG attack today. The war is far from over.

What, did you expect they'd be sauntering around Iraq drinking tea and eating crumpets on a picnic blanket?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #28 on:** June 24, 2003, 04:32:11 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
He's right on the money Rude...Guess you don't have the "Stones" to admit that though.

Yes of course he is, the USA is exactly like Russia who actually tried to hide thousands and thousands of casualties from their Checnya debacle... Plus of course we also blew up entire cities in the Iraq war just like Borodas inept army had to do in Checnya..

SirLoin I know you hate the USA dearly, but for your own sake at least dont be so idiotic to equate your own views with those of a brainwashed communist diehard like boroda...

Fishu · « **Reply #29 on:** June 24, 2003, 06:17:38 PM »

I think this is just Borodas alter ego, griefing with pro communist attitude and later in the evening laughing around vodka with his friends about the westerners going all nuts on his acting.

Simply cannot believe someone could be such a weirdo otherwise :>