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Offline Syzygyone

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« on: June 25, 2003, 08:51:06 AM »
- ON THIS DAY -

On June 25, 1876, Lt. Col. George A. Custer and his 7th Cavalry were wiped out by Sioux and Cheyenne Indians in the Battle of Little Big Horn in Montana.

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/20030625.html

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2003, 08:53:55 AM »
"Civil War Hero lets ego get the better of him"

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2003, 09:29:55 AM »
"Custer died for our sins"

Anyone make the reinactment this year?
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2003, 09:32:16 AM »
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"Custer died for our sins"

Anyone make the reinactment this year?


Er what sins were those?

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2003, 09:34:42 AM »
lol Custer the Christ!

I hope that was a joke.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2003, 09:37:08 AM »
Gotta go play "Comanche the Brave Horse" -

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2003, 09:41:00 AM »
the 7th wasn't "wiped out".
only 200 men of the 7th Cavalry were killed , 2/3rds of the 7th under command of Reno and Benteen dug in on a ridge and held off the indians untill the next day when the rest of the army showed up.

custer was suposed to be a scouting/blocking force to keep the indians from retreating into the black hills, but as usual custer did not follow orders and attacked the indians without support of the rest of the army.

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Re: Huh?
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2003, 09:45:28 AM »
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Er what sins were those?


ah ye young whipersnappers, ;)
That was a quite popular bumper sticker in the nations at the 100th anniversery reinactment in 1976.

I had the good fortune to play one of Gauls bowmen.
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2003, 09:46:15 AM »
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Originally posted by john9001
the 7th wasn't "wiped out".
only 200 men of the 7th Cavalry were killed , 2/3rds of the 7th under command of Reno and Benteen dug in on a ridge and held off the indians untill the next day when the rest of the army showed up.

custer was suposed to be a scouting/blocking force to keep the indians from retreating into the black hills, but as usual custer did not follow orders and attacked the indians without support of the rest of the army.



So you are saying the NYT was fabricating stories and sensationalizng news even back then!  Hmmmmm......I wonder if Jason Blairs great great great grandfather worked there then?:D

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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2003, 09:49:37 AM »
Reno was a drunk!

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2003, 10:15:44 AM »
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Gauls.  Reno?  Custer?  
I'm totally lost!
But what's new, eh?

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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2003, 10:40:24 AM »
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Originally posted by Syzygyone
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Gauls.  Reno?  Custer?  
I'm totally lost!
But what's new, eh?


Short, sweet, not much detail, 2 minute synopsis.

http://www.linecamp.com/museums/americanwest/western_places/little_big_horn_custers_last_stand/little_big_horn_custers_last_stand.html
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2003, 10:52:50 AM »
Interesting tidbit about US cartridges from the Indian Wars.  They were made of a low quality brass that would become soft easily.  The rifle they used was called the "Trapdoor Springfield" carbine.  It was operated by opening a hinged top and a small bar would catch on the rim of the .45-70 casing and eject it.



However, as the chamber would get hot from firing, the cartridge would become soft.  Eventually, the ejector would pull the rim off the casing, leaving the casing in the chamber and making the rifle useless.  This was a big problem where the troopers were forced to shoot for extended times and is thought to have contributed to Custer's defeat.

Troopers were told to shoot til their Springfields failed, fire 5 shots from their revolvers at the Indians and save the sixth for themselves.  One story from the Battle of Little BigHorn is that Custer and his XO were found facing each other with one bullet hole in their forehead.  Meaning that they shot each other rather than fall into the Indians' hand.

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2003, 10:53:11 AM »
Meanwhile, 120 years or so later, Reno kills Americans at Ruby Ridge...coincidence?

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2003, 11:06:54 AM »
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Originally posted by MrBill
Short, sweet, not much detail, 2 minute synopsis.

http://www.linecamp.com/museums/americanwest/western_places/little_big_horn_custers_last_stand/little_big_horn_custers_last_stand.html


Excellent!  Thank You, Sir! Now I am reoriented!
Major Reno, not Janet
Gall not Gaul.
There!
:D

But it seems Rip is now the confused one!  Everyone knows Reno didn't use arrows at Waco!