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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2003, 03:32:30 PM »
I think that it's possible (but rare) for a white man made up as a black man to be funny.  E.g. Karl Malone on The Man Show.
Same goes for anybody of Race X made up as Race Y.  
E.g. Peter Sellers in "The Party".

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2003, 03:33:02 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2003, 03:33:41 PM »
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"Very poor taste" is giving too much credit?

OK,   They are a bunch of low life scum sucking pieces of whale poop that deserve the right to freedom of expression as much as anyone else.

How's that?


NO!  Lower than whale poop!
And I didn't say they didn't deserve free speech a smuch as anyone else. and I know that you know that I meant what you think you undertand me to mean that I knew that .........

Somebody killed kenny again?............

Damn!


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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2003, 03:40:17 PM »
Freedom of expression means exactly that.  It's not 'Freedom of popular expression'.

That said, they sound like resounding jerks.

Here's a good article on the subject: ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2003, 04:08:47 PM »
ACLU defends W's right to Kill Kenny.....AGAIN!

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2003, 04:13:51 PM »
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I think that it's possible (but rare) for a white man made up as a black man to be funny.  E.g. Karl Malone on The Man Show.
Same goes for anybody of Race X made up as Race Y.  
E.g. Peter Sellers in "The Party".
OK.. that's what I thought you meant... you just didn't say "but rare" in the initial statement.

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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2003, 01:39:30 PM »
Idiots are abound. I don’t like what they did. It wasn’t funny, it wasn’t clever. It bothered me none though I admit, but I see dipsh*ts everyday.

Still, I find it interesting how things get all important when the AH BBS talks about racism, namely blacks.

For instance, people get pissed at me here and say “Go eat fish and rice", and "when you going to move to Asia, etc.?”  Would they tell players with black wives to “Go eat watermelon and chicken, then go back to the ghetto?” No. Go figure, and where’s the outrage? There is none. (Thanks MT for realizing it)

It’s like watching the Tuskegee Airmen Disney Channel episode here, please.

 Anyway, in a parade float or a spouting off in a flight sim bbs, neither is at one's work, so who cares, and it shouldn’t interfere with your job. Or we would all be in trouble, lol.

Giuliani publicly declared, "They will be fired."  

He's a dip****.  Fire him with votes, for what he is doing AT HIS job.

And it's wrong, btw,  if that helps.
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2003, 02:01:50 PM »
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I always find it amusing to see the PC crowd try to navigate the right to free speech and freedom of expression-line...



Too bad it was the liberals who defended these guys.  And no one was saying that they did anything illegal.

I am troubled by the ruling though, the City should have the right to expect some minimal level of professional conduct from its employees, even after hours.   If these idiots had been working in the private sector and had embarassed their employer like this, they would be fired in a heart beat.

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2003, 02:26:15 PM »
You’re not attacking the liberals directly Montz, yet you called people idiots. Of course it’s not illegal what they did, yet.

Still, that’s slander, and you’re fired. Your employer has the right to expect some minimal level of professional conduct from its employees. And calling someone an “idiot” with no provocation is not exactly what someone expects from a citizen of the a true American republic. Would you say that to their face? No,

You don’t need a float  and blackface to promote your cause I see, you are obviously hard core opinionated, and for that, your every position, idea, free thought, and ideals are here by judged, by anyone that doesn’t agree with you. The private sector can’t help you, they are private, and a dislodged entity from your plight.

Never mind, just fire the 2 firemen and the police guy. Sorry.

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2003, 02:48:57 PM »
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Too bad it was the liberals who defended these guys.


Heh, does that mean that I'm a liberal?!


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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2003, 08:35:52 PM »
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You’re not attacking the liberals directly Montz, yet you called people idiots. Of course it’s not illegal what they did, yet.



Well-played slippery slope argument there, but my (nearly) anonymously calling someone an idiot does not have the same potential to spark civil unrest that a police officer riding a racist parade float through town does.

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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2003, 08:36:58 PM »
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Heh, does that mean that I'm a liberal?!


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I don't know, are you part of the New York Civil Liberties Union?

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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2003, 08:45:40 PM »
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What they did was in very poor taste, but I agree with the ruling too.


I agree 100% that it was very poor taste. Those guys didn't mean to parady anthing, they meant to mock blacks IMO.

Let them try that in a black part of the city and see what happens.


Anyway, If I saw a float of black guys in "whiteface" doing stereo-typical "white" things, I would probably think it was funny........ but the other way around (especially if I were black) I would not think it was funny at all.

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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2003, 09:51:59 PM »
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If they weren't in uniform or acting in an official capacity, I don't see how it's any of the city's business.  Good ruling.


I agree.

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« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2003, 10:07:05 PM »
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I don't know, are you part of the New York Civil Liberties Union?


Not the last time I checked, but I do have a membership to the YMCA.  Does that count?


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