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Offline GRUNHERZ

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http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/index.html

Of course this does not count because Saddam would never go back on his word and try to build nukes....

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2003, 06:07:03 PM »
Oddly enough, I just logged on to post the same thing.

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2003, 06:15:46 PM »
We can't say nanner nanner yet but this is promising and more than a bit disconcerting considering how big Iraq is and how easy it must have been to hide parts or even parts of parts of weapons programs.  Going to be interesting!

And you gotta give it to them CIA spooks.  Who ever would have thought to put in in a barrel under a rose "BUSH".  Man, oh man, the coincidence ain't lost on me.  Is it lost on you?

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2003, 07:16:58 PM »
We were all led to believe that Iraq had 10's of thousands of tons of chemical,biological weapons to be used at a moments notice.

The fact that they haven't found as much as a trace even in a couple rusty old trailers is very amusing. And must certinly severely damage the credibilty of Bush and Blair.

Of course the fact that N.Korea does have nukes in devlopment is in the "too hard tray" at the moment.



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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2003, 07:58:16 PM »
Iraq had nukes in developement too, we stopped them from becoming another NK . Which you just wisely pointed out as a very good thing .

In fact in 1991 Iraq had a nuke, but it was to large to fit in a warhead of one of their many ballistic missles . I know, I know, this is old news .

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2003, 08:45:34 PM »
That was not a WMD. It could be used to build a plant which could be used to make enriched Uranium which could be used to make a nuclear bomb. Only then would it be a WMD. Some bits of metal buried for 12 years in some scientist's back garden hardly constitutes readiness.

We were told that Iraq had WMD's ready at 40 minutes notice. So far not one single solitary bomb, shell or even a barrel of something smelly has been found.  So much for readiness. At this stage we have to accept that either nothing will be found or what little is found won't be the threat it was made out to be. The war's real aim was to get rid of Saddam. Which is a good thing.

That is the line I now take with my now smug anti war, anti Bush friends with whom I had many an argument before the war. Yes that's right despite being painted as neo liberal commie pinko socialist Godless hippy by one or two people. I thought Bush and Blair were right and after some thought believed the war was the only option. That will teach me to believe a politician! But at least now they agree getting rid of Saddam was a good idea.

So lesson learned, I notice lately that George W is saying that genetically modified food is perfectly safe. Hmmmmm, that's me off to the organic wholefood store:(

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2003, 08:53:15 PM »
Ahhh of course Sadddm was forbidden to have WMD but its just perfectly fine that he have nuclear weapons production equipment hidden away in ****ing rose gardens till after the idiot Hans Blix declares Saddam clean and coopeperative...

Face it prettythangholes we just prevented Saddam from staying in power and eventually resuming his banned nuclear program...

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2003, 09:07:14 PM »
what's this?... the weekly grasping at straws WMD find post. ... ok, heading over to read that link. I'm sure it's a real shocker. this is it this time right? the one? I'm bracing myself.... heh.

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2003, 09:10:14 PM »
Just parts used to make, oh, nuclear bombs....

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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2003, 09:15:19 PM »
nuclear bombs are in no way threat to USA, it's just ridicules.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2003, 09:31:09 PM »
sounds like we are makeing a mountain out of a mole hill.  centerfuge parts can be bought online. if we are going to invade a country over crap like this we might as well start going after costa rica, i heard their physics department at the national university is actually teaching people nuclear physics!.

its one thing to have equipment its another to possess uranium and the thousands upon thousands of chemical weopons that we were told he had. Face it we were lied to and you guys dont give a damn because you had other reasons to support the war against iraq, which is respectible. but dont go around and pretend this is sufficient reason to invade and occupy a country for the next 10 years.

personally im glad the guy never had anything that he didnt already said he had. because if he really did it would have been used against our troops or us during the war.

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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2003, 09:50:15 PM »
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
sounds like we are makeing a mountain out of a mole hill.  centerfuge parts can be bought online. if we are going to invade a country over crap like this we might as well start going after costa rica, i heard their physics department at the national university is actually teaching people nuclear physics!.

 


yeah, they're so easy to get...that's why Saddam had a special guy in charge of hiding them under a rose bush until such time that they could retreive them once "inspections" ended.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2003, 09:56:53 PM by NUKE »

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2003, 10:00:00 PM »
This find actually hurts the case of Iraq as a threat, as portrayed by Bush & Co.

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2003, 10:55:13 PM »
LOL Nash!

So him secretly preparing to restart his nucler bomb program after weathering the inspections somehow proves he was less of a threat? Your logic is simply incredible here, I guess if actual WMD stockpiles are found then that will be the final proof to you that Bush was lying about Iraq being a threat..

BTW frogman administration officials have freely admitted that there were several reasons for the Iraq war, the one they agreed to the most was WMD violations. Violations that were documented by the UN and in breach of the cese fire and UN resolutions. So the legal basis of the war being WMD is pretty solid.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2003, 10:59:18 PM »
You haven't even heard my logic. And no, actual WMD stockpiles found would mean that Bush was telling the truth. Lack of WMD stockpiles would of course mean that he wasn't.

What is your standard for final proof btw, Grun?