lets drop the "you have been captured" thingie..

[lazs2]

why give the kill to someone who just happens to be in the area?  how can you be captured if you are a half or more a sector away from the enemy base?  
lazs

[loser]

I agree.  I think unless there is an enemy GV or airfield within sight you should just "ditch" or "bail successfully."

[Murdr]

I dont see the problem with a penality for being unable to return to friendly lines?  The only issue seems to be with landing gv's spawned to enemy areas.
Does anyone know if there is a randomizer on being captured?  There is after all a chance of evading capture behind enemy lines.

[john9001]

when you bail into enemy territory you can "walk" to a friendly base (at 4 MPH)

[Mini D]

scorepotato!

[Hornet]

wtfgas

[lazs2]

Don't care about the score... you could make it so that you still died or lost 1,000 perks just don't give the credit to the guy who happened to be closest.
lazs

[Mini D]

Scorepotato (If you're just as concerned about someone else's score as yours).

Simple rules lazs... you are captured if you are closer to an enemy base than your own.  If you were pinged, and that pilot is still allive, he gets credit for your kill.

MiniD

[Creamo]

Scorepotato (If you're just as concerned about someone else's score as yours).

lol, brutal.

Go wirlpool fight him below 14 feet agl in a the worst F varient Laz, defend your honor!

[lazs2]

no deja you are wrong... you don't have to be pinged by anyone.  land by the enemy field and whoever is closest get's the kill.

I know what the rules are, I just don't like em.   I liked the old rule where if you landed at the base, even an enemy base you didn't give someone the kill.   but they changed that one.
lazs

[Mini D]

Lazs... you are wrong.  You claim to be just about the fight but are unable to deal with the consequences of landing in enemy terriroty with a plea that its changed.

How can someone that just wants to return to the fight be even remotely concerned about this?

Come now lazs... doesn't this involve just a little bit of thought?

Besides, the reasoning for the "feature" is quite simple.  Those that "don't worry" about score would abuse the hell out of the capture system by ditching in enemy territory just to avoid a kill.  So... I guess its a win win situation.  People that "arent worried" about score can't get away with exploiting a loophole and we also get to watch people that "aren't worried" about score come here and complain about it.

You've become a toothless tiger lazs.

MiniD

[lazs2]

shouldn't ditching be considered a skill?   I sure can't ditch with cons around..  

what is wrong about what I said?  you can't ditch or land in enemyh territory damaged or not and not give the kill to whoever is closest regardless of if they earned it or not.

There is nothing inconsitent about furballing and not wanting to give someone a kill.... I don't like to give em one even if they earned it much less if they didn't.

My interest is that if you don't want to fly all the way back to base you could simply ditch when out of sight of the airfield and save a long boring flight home without giving someone a kill who didn't earn it.

score means nothing but... stats are fun.  I think you would agree.  I like to look at stats.   The capture counting as a kill ruins the K/D stat.   It makes it less meaningful.  It also promotes a lot of flying around doing nothing..  with fields 2 sectors away you have to fly back over a sector to ditch... having the capture thingie promotes people staying close to their own airfield or... not venturing to others unless they are part of a steamroller.

the feature promotes lousy gameplay.

lazs

[Mini D]

Who cares if someone "earned it or not".  You obviously did not earn the right to not have a kill awarded for you since you obviously couldn't make it into friendly territory.  A more skilled pilot would know this.

MiniD

[Tilt]

Originally posted by lazs2
why give the kill to someone who just happens to be in the area?  how can you be captured if you are a half or more a sector away from the enemy base?  
lazs

To achieve the same ends I would just add server reports of

'"x" crashed'

and

'"y" was shot down"

delete all server victory reports

then watch suicide'ers  live with their shame for all to see.

I dont have a problem with capture although it seems a little perverse to award someone a kill for it without significant damage incurred.

[rshubert]

Originally posted by Tilt
To achieve the same ends I would just add server reports of

'"x" crashed'

and

'"y" was shot down"

delete all server victory reports

then watch suicide'ers  live with their shame for all to see.

I don't have a problem with capture although it seems a little perverse to award someone a kill for it without significant damage incurred.

If you ditch in enemy territory, then go back to the tower, does the guy closest to you or the guy who shot you down get the kill?  I think it's the guy who shot you down.

If the damage weren't significant, then why do you have to ditch?  IMO, a ditch is just a crash you survived, unless you are ditching for gameplay reasons.  If you're doing that, then why worry about who gets a kill, anyway?  It's obviously not important enough to fly your (presumably flyable) plane back to friendly territory.