Author Topic: Dark Blue World (Read 1539 times)

Czpetr · « **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2003, 04:56:46 PM »

That`s true that the love story is not the strongest part of the movie. I should prefer the more detailed story of the pilots journey from the escape from occupied Czechoslovakia to the entering RAF in England. The time jumps in story could be quite confusing for someone who is not familiar with history of our pilots.
Anyway it`s a good movie for its flying part.

czpetr
249th sqdn RAF "Gold Coast" Tangmere Wing -HQ-

XNachoX · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2003, 05:51:22 PM »

C'mere Barche(pronounced Barcho I believe?)..

I really enjoyed this movie for all of the reasons above even though there were some flaws.
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funkedup · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2003, 05:56:00 PM »

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Originally posted by AKWeav
The guy lost everything, even his dog.

Yeah that was pretty harsh. Even the dog rejected him when he came back.

Vulcan · « **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2003, 07:54:26 PM »

A lot of the aerial sequences are remastered outtakes from Battle of Britain.

-tronski- · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2003, 12:17:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
A lot of the aerial sequences are remastered outtakes from Battle of Britain.

Hmmm, the DVD touched a little on that.

I liked Dark Blue World, I thought it was an excellent film....

They should "spec ed" the BOB, I reckon they'd do a great job running that movie through the same processes as DBW.

Tronsky

bigsky · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2003, 02:10:33 AM »

oh please boroda, please name one good thing communism has added to the human condition that works.
besides ideas that resources dont back up. communism is a failed system because people want to get ahead in life, not stay with those who dont. if i was high up in the commy party i would get those things, but im not high up in any party(political) so life for me is hand to mouth. please dont waste anybodys time suggestioning that things could be any different. its a joke, and im laughing.

Bodhi · « **Reply #21 on:** July 01, 2003, 08:35:04 AM »

Don't disturb Boroda, in his dream state, Comrade Boroda is living the life of luxury under his failed belief that communism is good, and without it, the world would have self destructed long before.
I wonder if he really thinks he is a kommissar in good ole WW2, maybe he is like the guy from Enemy at the Gates, the one with the dark circles and puffy cheeks, who yelled no surrender, no retreat while his other wonderous commissars gunned down the retreating russian soldiers... yeah, that sounds like him, or wait, maybe he is Comrade Stalins bed pan envoy, and is able to suplement his rations at work.... hmmm...

Boroda · « **Reply #22 on:** July 01, 2003, 01:58:16 PM »

Bodhi(kharma?), you don't understand my point, as usually you, Westerners, do...

Just tell me - are you a big fan of nazism?...

do you really think that making an SS doctor a positive character is OK?...

I don't care about how they look at my compatriots, I know that my country have done many "not so good" things to Czechs, but praising military criminals is out of my understanding.

Curval · « **Reply #23 on:** July 01, 2003, 02:13:56 PM »

I actually think Boroda has a valid point.

funkedup · « **Reply #24 on:** July 01, 2003, 02:21:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
A lot of the aerial sequences are remastered outtakes from Battle of Britain.

This is true, but if you watch the DVD extras you'll see that they did quite a lot of flying for the movie, including some really fabulous low level Spitfire stuff.

gofaster · « **Reply #25 on:** July 01, 2003, 02:23:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Curval
I actually think Boroda has a valid point.

I interpreted the SS doctor as being a forced laborer himself, and sort of neutral about the whole thing. I would've preferred to see some remorse on his part, particularly during the scene where he describes how his job was to verify the deaths of prisoners during executions in Prague. Instead we get a sort of "Enemy Mine" in a medical ward where both sides of the conflict come to an understanding about their plights.

I also think that by making the doctor an SS man opened up the question of who was truly evil - the Nazi doctor who supervised executions of Czechs or the Communists who worked the Czech prisoners to death (which was something the Nazis did as well).

I think a scene showing the trial would've gone a bit farther in the characterization of the Czech government, but alas we are only left to wonder.

Curval · « **Reply #26 on:** July 01, 2003, 02:29:43 PM »

Gofaster..I agree with what you are saying and it only adds to my point that the love story in the film got in the way of a good thought/emotion provoking movie.

funkedup · « **Reply #27 on:** July 01, 2003, 02:35:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Bodhi(kharma?), you don't understand my point, as usually you, Westerners, do...

Just tell me - are you a big fan of nazism?...

do you really think that making an SS doctor a positive character is OK?...

I don't care about how they look at my compatriots, I know that my country have done many "not so good" things to Czechs, but praising military criminals is out of my understanding.

1. Are you sure that the camp officials are Soviets? I thought they were Czech communists?
2. Not all SS men were criminals. Especially someone who was probably running a field hospital patching up the wounded, not actually fighting.
3. The German soldiers earlier in the film are depicted as arrogant and a bit rude at the airfield, and a bit stupid in the scene where the young pilot hides in the haystack.

Czpetr · « **Reply #28 on:** July 01, 2003, 02:39:35 PM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
This is true, but if you watch the DVD extras you'll see that they did quite a lot of flying for the movie, including some really fabulous low level Spitfire stuff.

Only some combat scenes were taken from unused Battle of Britain footage. The rest are mix of real and computer models but A LOT of flying scenes were made with two REAL Spitfires (one Mk.V and one Mk.IX from Duxford collection)

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Originally posted by Boroda
do you really think that making an SS doctor a positive character is OK?...

What is so untruly positive on his character? Do you think that all SS men must be presented as bad characters despite what character they really had? Than you surely will agree that all communists must be presented bad as well.

udet · « **Reply #29 on:** July 01, 2003, 03:57:16 PM »

Boroda, not everybody joined the SS so they could kill little Russian babies or rape Russian maids...umm on the second one...I don't know

Anyways, the way I undertsnad it, the SS was considered somewhat of an elite corps and, especially before the atrocities commited by them became known (thus drawing the hate of the regular Wermacht), a lot of decent people joined.

However, I do agree that there were LOTS of murderers there. One of my teachers father was in the SS (Cavalry), and he once told us how his father's CO killed a Russian boy who was tending their horses because one of them got sick or something, I don't remember the exact story.