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Offline Drunky

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Re: Fuel Bunkers
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2003, 10:40:13 PM »
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It seems that a solution should be looked into.   Perhaps a combination of Ideas.   Maybe more fuel tanks per feild.  or maybe concrete bunkers around the tanks so only vertical attacks (bomb, rocket straffing straight down) has effect.    Or maybe something nobody has suggested yet.


I suggest little, pink, fru-fru umbrellas like those girly, fru-fru drinks come with :D

Sorry, I'm drunk (Hell, I'm Drunky) and having some stupid, drunk fun at someone's/something's expense.

Carry on.

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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2003, 10:56:53 PM »
Oh jeez beet1e leave it to you to "look" for scores when you don't really "care" about them.

With a week off, your balls to the wall right out of the start gate...

And Grimm ya bassstage ya owe me fifty bucks..

Rshubert your shoe is starting to stink.

Urchin, take a month off..

That about covers it, let the "drama" continue..

Sax I'd offer ya a beer, but it's cheap American beer...

...and I "know" how you guys are..

God I HOPE I spelled everything correctly..
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Re: Re: Re: A whine...
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2003, 11:33:45 PM »
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LOL.  Oh, yes, you missed my point.  By about a mile.  No, no, never, no. I don't agree with your whine.  Or any of the others about how unbalanced the gameplay is, in their opinion.

I like it just fine the way it is.  Somebody ought to do a study on how many planes get shot down per fuel bunker on average.  I'll bet the number would astonish you.

On the other hand, there are a few Jabo pilots in here who can get the fuel and get away.  That's a skill set I am still working to develop.


no need in busting his nuts, it's just an idea.  bad form dude.

me personally i hate fuel porking cause my la7 is a gas hog.

grimm good idea

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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2003, 11:58:06 PM »
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I can find no scores/stats for "Grimm". Is this a secret ID?  I know a lot of guys who post here hide behind secret IDs.


His AH Game ID is GrimmCAF.  But what does it matter what the man's score is when he's just posting up some ideas?

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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2003, 12:54:56 AM »
Aren't we just a "sensitive" bunch :p

Maybe we need a nut check.
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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2003, 04:23:55 AM »
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His AH Game ID is GrimmCAF.  But what does it matter what the man's score is when he's just posting up some ideas?
Thanks, Thunder9. I'm not so much interested in scores as stats - types of plane flown etc. Clearly Grimm is concerned about the porkage issue, so I was just trying to assess the type of player.

Nopoop, keep your pants on.

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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2003, 10:31:33 AM »
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I can find no scores/stats for "Grimm". Is this a secret ID?  I know a lot of guys who post here hide behind secret IDs.


My Current GameID is GrimmCAF.   I was Grimm during Beta, I was Gr1mm/Grimm in AW,   I was Grimm back on Qlink in the Mid 80s.  Iv been Grimm for so long its like my second name.

Im not much of a score guy,  I sometimes watch my K/D,  but mostly Im too busy  herding cats or planning something to watch it.   Spend a fair share of time workin with scenarios, even COed Midway.   There is more to AH than just scores ;)

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« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2003, 10:43:34 AM »
beetle .. if you gonna look @ his stats look for the past year...

Grimm is a great guy and commander. i think he's even run a couple ROJ's, but i dont hinki i have ever seen him fly the same sortie twice.

meaning he's a very diverse pilot doing most of what the MA has to offer ;)





Ps. why do you want to look up the stats of somone posting their idea anyway? if they dont measure up to some ideal their thoughts are not valid?
I don't know what to put here yet.

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« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2003, 10:44:53 AM »
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Clearly Grimm is concerned about the porkage issue, so I was just trying to assess the type of player.


Hey Beetle,  Not a Problem.    You can just ask me too  :)

I try to support AH and the Community wearever I can.  

Iv been asked to join the CM team, but have had to decline for now.   Im very busy with Commanding the Cactus Air Force, and with being a key person in the RJO  (rook joint operations).  

I try to follow the messages and read between the flames.  Ill joke alittle and try to add comments when I can.  

Back in the day of Old at AW I was an Event Host.  

I have been watching the Fuel Issue and felt that my vision had relivance and wanted to bring it to light.   Perhaps,  if it makes sence someone at HTC will notice it and see if it does improve things,  if not,  Its been a decent conversation.

Yes,  I do Furball sometimes,  I cherry pick sometimes,  I fly heavy bombers sometimes,  sometimes I spend entire nights flying C47s and just interact with my country.   I like a good fight and I enjoy working a reset.    Iv commanded the RJO a several times,  with a couple hunderd pilots following my lead.   Iv lead us to several resets.  

I guess I think of myself as well rounded and see the needs of many types of players...  

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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2003, 11:54:02 AM »
Grimm - fair enough. I just wondered if I had run into you online. I like working with the guys who organise things sensibly, but not mob-handed missuns where the sheer numerical supremacy dictates the outcome. What time zone are you Grimm? Oh wait - Wisconsin. Central?

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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2003, 12:24:01 PM »
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Grimm - fair enough. I just wondered if I had run into you online. What time zone are you Grimm? Oh wait - Wisconsin. Central?


Well,  First off  Im not the leader these guys claim.  Im just social enough to get a little help.  
Im not much for the "Missun" planner in the game.   Its the squads, their COs and their pilots that fly primetime Rook that make the difference.  The Core RJO squads are really an amazing bunch.   The rest of the Rooks are pretty good at helping as needed.

Wisconsin is in the Central time zone (USA)  I fly about 20hrs a month, sometimes a little more.  I probably spend about the same amount doing the administrative things needed of a CO.

Im starting to feel like its an interview!  LOL!

Back to the Fuel Bunkers

What I see is Fuel that is just too easy to pork.   Im not calling for hardness changes or supply changes.   Just a small tweek that would call for a change in the tactics to pork them.   This wont stop a suicide attack,  but it might lessen the effect.   (ie only one tank.. with only a 10% reduction lets say)

Like I said before,  If Fuel was a little harder to take down,  It would benifit both the defender, and the Attacker if Capture is his goal.  

A Guy like Lazs that lives to Fight close to the deck and not far from his feild would benifit from this.   Fuel can still go down, but it has a better chance of staying up.  

Strat players would be challanged to use better techinics to take down the fuel.   Also the amount of random damage to fuel when Steamrolling a feild would be less and help those guys out also.

The best argument for the statis quo Iv seen so far is this.  That porking fuel with ease can slow the juggernaut of a large enemy assualt.   I can counter that with destroying Barracks hurts an attacker more than fuel.    

I formed my Ideas after reading comments from this forum, and watching for these actions in the MA.